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re: Just curious as to who believes in aliens/UFOs coverup

Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:19 am to
Posted by AMS
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Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:19 am to
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Some evidence may not be absolute proof that a speculative conclusion is correct but it is still evidence that "tends to prove" a speculative conclusion is correct.


I would mostly agree, but suggest that evidence may not be absolute proof that any conclusion is correct. But for it to be evidence I would agree that it would at least need to "tend to prove" his conclusion, Which it does not. It is equally likely that it was ancient lizard people using atomic bombs that wiped themselves out, or how about more likely a meteor?

So I don't think many examples of "evidence" provided here fall under the category of evidence, rather speculation.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:21 am to
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Yup, that's me in the red jacket and my brother being interviewed at the location where we had our first close definitive sighting of a sea serpent in SF Bay.


Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:22 am to
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I never said he provides no evidence, just that none of the evidence is what he is claiming it is [proof] of. Its just speculation for his conclusion, not [enough] evidence for it.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:23 am to
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Yup, that's me in the red jacket and my brother being interviewed at the location where we had our first close definitive sighting of a sea serpent in SF Bay.


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Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:40 am to
Na I was ok with the first time. He provided evidence. Just none of it is evidence in relation to what he was concluding, its making speculation in regards to his conclusions.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:45 am to
I have no doubt there are many awesome creatures that live in the sea which we have yet to discover.

I find it very unlikely however that such massive creatures could exist relatively undetected in the San Francisco Bay. It has an average depth of 43 feet, a max depth of less than 400 feet and is encased on 3 sides by a surrounding metropolitan area of 7 million people.

A 60+ foot animal is not going to remain a legend for very long under those conditions.
This post was edited on 7/14/17 at 11:47 am
Posted by Strophie
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 7/14/17 at 1:03 pm to
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What's that supposed to mean?


It's supposed to mean that I have no idea how you use the thought that "we do not know how the Great Pyramid was built" to somehow justify the feasibility in a "devolutionary [sic] view of man."

Firstly, while we don't know exactly how the pyramids were built (because there's no consistent/supported records, as far as I know), there's plenty of research on the many ways they could have been built. It's not like it's some profound miracle that they were constructed.

Secondly, the two ideas themselves have literally nothing in common.
This post was edited on 7/14/17 at 1:06 pm
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 7/14/17 at 1:06 pm to
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"devolutionary [sic] view of man."


Why the "[sic]"?
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19467 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 1:07 pm to
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Maybe I watch too much History Channel but I'm starting to come around.


You already know the answer. If they were not real it would be on science fiction channel, not History Channel.

This is yet just another subtle bit of psychological gaming by the government to ease the shock of the release when it happens.
Posted by Strophie
Member since Apr 2014
438 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 1:09 pm to
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Why the "[sic]"?


Because I'm an idiot and thought it was a misspelling of "de-evolutionary," despite "devolutionary" being a real word.

TIL.
This post was edited on 7/14/17 at 1:10 pm
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63689 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 1:10 pm to
Ah. No worries.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 7/14/17 at 1:27 pm to
Liberal nut jobs obviously
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 7/14/17 at 1:28 pm to
#goldennugget
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 7/14/17 at 2:46 pm to
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AMS

Just agree to disagree and move on. You guys have been going back and forth for pages and neither of you are budging an inch. You're just repeating yourselves at this point.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 7/14/17 at 2:48 pm to
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Who knows what happened in our past that, if found out, would fundamentally change what we think occurred.


Nothing on the scale of "ancient humans engaged in nuclear war"
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 7/14/17 at 2:51 pm to
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In spite of all the anecdotal evidence, some "experts" who don't even believe in the possibility that sea serpents might exist are attempting to discredit my and my brother's close definitive sighting of a sea serpent by invoking Occam's Razor and claiming what we saw was probably an oarfish even though what we described seeing didn't look anything like an oarfish.




Yeah, that doesn't look like a sea serpent at all.

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You wish my brother and I barely saw what we claim was a sea serpent so you could just dismiss our sighting as simply a misidentified object or known marine animal


Because that's what it was. Where have these magical sea serpents washed ashore? We had evidence of giant squid for years before we found a live one. Why is the only evidence for your 'find' your own memory and dispositive photos?
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 7/14/17 at 2:55 pm to
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Rosewell happened


It's called Roswell by the way



Verifiable photo of an abduction at the state line too.



They live among the citizens of Roswell to this day



Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/14/17 at 3:44 pm to





Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 7/14/17 at 3:51 pm to
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Then beyond that, there are no aliens. The Universe is extremely hostile towards life. The fact that we have life on Earth probably can be traced back to our place in the Universe. The Milky Way is located in one of the biggest voids in the Universe. However, there have been numerous documented events in recorded history that came pretty close to ending life on Earth. Now think about that, what if the Earth was in a much more densely packed portion of the Universe? The chances to end life on Earth would greatly go up.


Yet here we are.

There are likely several intelligent alien species in the milky way
Posted by skrayper
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/14/17 at 3:53 pm to
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Just curious as to who believes in aliens/UFOs coverup


Please. Trump as President is PROOF there are no alien cover-ups. You think for 5 seconds he wouldn't go around telling everyone how we have the best aliens at Area 51?
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