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re: Just curious as to who believes in aliens/UFOs coverup

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Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 10:34 pm to
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 10:35 pm to
I Believe

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Posted by MastrShake
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 10:37 pm to
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Besides, couldn't highly evolved beings have some basic similarities such as two eyes to have depth perception, two legs to be able to walk upright and hands with opposing thumbs for grasping objects?
oh sure, absolutely. it's possible in the sense that it isn't impossible, but that technically does make it possible. just very very unlikely.

again, think of the endless varieties of life on earth, all of us evolving under the exact some conditions, and how many even walk upright on two legs?

for another species in another solar system to end up like us, they would essentially have to have identical conditions, and the odds of that are too great to even calculate.

if some rock the size of mars hadnt slammed into earth 4.5 billion years ago we wouldnt have the moon, and human life never would have even begun.

thats pretty fricking random, yet 100 percent necessary for us to even get here.

our sun is the second most obvious factor. its a G-type main-sequence star and, as i understand it, they are not very common. there are a million things about it that make it unique and allow life on earth, one of them being that its very stable and doesnt flare up "a lot".

Kepler-438b is the most earth-like planet that we know of, but that has a different kind of sun, and every couple of hundred days that keeps flaring up irradiating everything around it.

this is not helpful.
This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 10:42 pm
Posted by dcbl
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 10:45 pm to
Again, I feel like you are being obtuse

I agree with you on most political things, but I am confused as to why you are saying these things are not evidence

It's possible to disagree about what the evidence means without saying that it is not evidence

This is really a silly argument to have - I know that my speculation may very well be untrue

But for you to say there is zero evidence is incorrect

My main point is that I believe mankind achieved high technology in antiquity- the evidence for that is overwhelming and compelling

I further stated that there is evidence that there may have even been nuclear war

There is evidence that it may have happened, on that point, the evidence is not overwhelming, but there is evidence

And again, even Oppenheimer thought so

Anyway, it's a silly argument to have because it's irrelevant
This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 10:48 pm
Posted by AMS
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 11:10 pm to
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There is evidence that it may have happened, on that point, the evidence is not overwhelming, but there is evidence

And again, even Oppenheimer thought so

Anyway, it's a silly argument to have because it's irrelevant




You mean there may be evidence that it happened. Which is not evidence that something happened speculation that its evidence.

Oppenheimer was trying to be deep he said all kinds of crap. He said that he became death, the destroyer of worlds. I guess I found evidence that he really is death and he destroys worlds.

I found a neat rock in my back yard and I was once told that there was an ancient race of lizard people who dominated the planet by harnessing neat rocks until they wiped themselves out with atom bombs. the neat rock being in my backyard, along with radiation in some place and green glass is evidence that there were ancient advanced lizard people in the past. With your logic; that is hard evidence (no pun intended) that ancient lizard people happened and harnessed neat rocks to rule the planet until they wiped themselves out with nukes. Does that sound more like evidence or speculation?
Posted by dcbl
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 11:12 pm to
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You mean there may be evidence that it happened. Which is not evidence that something happened speculation that its evidence.


no there is absolutely evidence it may have happened

just because you disagree with my interpretation of the evidence does not mean the evidence does not exist

I am truly shocked you don't understand this...
This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 11:13 pm
Posted by AMS
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 11:27 pm to
I found a neat rock in my back yard and I was once told that there was an ancient race of lizard people who dominated the planet by harnessing neat rocks until they wiped themselves out with atom bombs. the neat rock being in my backyard, along with radiation in some place and green glass is evidence that there were ancient advanced lizard people in the past. With your logic; that is hard evidence (no pun intended) that ancient lizard people happened and harnessed neat rocks to rule the planet until they wiped themselves out with nukes.

Does that sound more like evidence or speculation?
Posted by kingbob
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 11:29 pm to
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civilizations on every continent, with not even the slightest ability to travel to distant lands to adopt cultures of others, somehow ALL separately arrived at building pyramid like structures.


Well a pyramid is the most architecturally stable shape one could build in and unmortered stone is the longest lasting building method, so it's not that crazy that it would be figured out. What's weird to me is that literally every tribal nomadic people in every corner of the globe developed the bow and arrow and the spear, but those in the Americas never invented the wheel. It seems utterly bizare that they could have wheel-shaped symbols and statues, but never once utilized a wheel in transportation or machinery.
Posted by berrycajun
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 11:33 pm to
As of this year, I totally believe there are. I don't understand why they won't tell us???

Gotta build that space elevator HLI wants so badly;)

Today there was news of successful teleporting by Tibet. Maybe that space elevator isn't as far off as we think;)

I have to note that I, personally, have NO desire to go to space. I would NEVER

https://futurism.com/scientists-just-teleported-a-photon-from-earth-to-orbit-for-the-first-time/
This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 11:56 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 11:37 pm to
Our ancient past is riddled with mystery, paradox, and, in my opinion, ginormous undiscovered facts.

I just saw an interesting vid on sunken continents in asia and Oceania that have been tracked and mapped.

Researchers think there is a chance they were above the sea at the time of ancient ancient human life

Who knows what happened in our past that, if found out, would fundamentally change what we think occurred.

Something like 95% of our ocean floor remains undiscovered!

Who knows what we could find deep under the seas.


And yes, call me crazy but I want to know how humans in the earliest days made this






Posted by dcbl
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 11:48 pm to
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And yes, call me crazy but I want to know how humans in the earliest days made this


it's truly amazing - more evidence of advanced technology - perfect corner and perfectly straight lines cannot be made with hammers and chisels

also looks like they had the ability to cast dies...
Posted by dcbl
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 11:50 pm to
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AMS


you seem intelligent most of the time

but ITT you have demonstrated that you don't understand what evidence is

like I said earlier, I am very surprised by this

Posted by kingbob
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 11:53 pm to
It is impossible to cut those with conventional, non-modern tools. They're not even drilled, they're too perfect. In my opinion, the only rational explanation is that we are looking at poured stone, like pre-fab concrete. Now, I have no idea how they managed to melt and pour diarite, but there is little doubt in my mind that these are the result of formwork.
Posted by AMS
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 11:56 pm to
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I found a neat rock in my back yard and I was once told that there was an ancient race of lizard people who dominated the planet by harnessing neat rocks until they wiped themselves out with atom bombs. the neat rock being in my backyard, along with radiation in some place and green glass is evidence that there were ancient advanced lizard people in the past.

With your logic; that is hard evidence (no pun intended) that ancient lizard people happened and harnessed neat rocks to rule the planet until they wiped themselves out with nukes.

Does that sound more like evidence or speculation?


Still not sure why you won't answer this. Is it maybe because it sounds like speculation and not evidence?
Posted by dcbl
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Posted on 7/14/17 at 12:01 am to
no, it's because you are acting like a moron

Posted by dcbl
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Posted on 7/14/17 at 12:03 am to
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It is impossible to cut those with conventional, non-modern tools. They're not even drilled, they're too perfect. In my opinion, the only rational explanation is that we are looking at poured stone, like pre-fab concrete. Now, I have no idea how they managed to melt and pour diarite, but there is little doubt in my mind that these are the result of formwork.


absolutely agree with this

the evidence that ancient men had access to tools & technology is overwhelming
Posted by CCTider
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Posted on 7/14/17 at 12:04 am to
I can't speak for a cover-up. But if contact discreetly occurred, I would expect our country and many others to cover it up.

I do believe in extra terrestrial life exists. The universe is enormous. And we still know very little about our own Galaxy. As they said in the movie Contact. "it sure seems like an awful waste of space."
Posted by AMS
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Posted on 7/14/17 at 12:20 am to
I mirrored your argument, but changed the noun to be ancient lizard peoples that had unbelievable rock technology from neat rocks leading to nuclear wipe out of themselves in the past. Now theres neat rocks, green glass man, and radiation in a desert, all evidence suggesting that ancient lizard peoples ruled the planet until they got into nuclear catastrophe.

Is that evidence of ancient lizards or speculation?
Its a simply question,
Posted by dcbl
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Posted on 7/14/17 at 12:23 am to
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I mirrored your argument,


are you really this stupid?

for real?

serious question baw

Posted by rebeloke
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Posted on 7/14/17 at 12:31 am to
I think you need a lesson in rhetoric and Aristotelian logic. You have slammed a dude for not understanding what evidence is but it is you who needs a lesson in semantics. You confuse evidence with proof. Evidence is but an observation. Proof is making a case based on evidence and logic. Also by making personally insulting statements it only makes you look insecure.

Now as you were...
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