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re: Judge throws out Maryland congressional map over ‘extreme’ gerrymandering

Posted on 3/25/22 at 2:45 pm to
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
23008 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 2:45 pm to
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Gerrymandering should be illegal. Make the districts and let the chips fall where they may.


Gerrymandering is one of the most American things there is and one of the only ways States actually have any real power now. It's not a popular opinion but if you want to control congressional districts then win state elections.
Posted by Billy Rocks
Member since Mar 2022
97 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 2:50 pm to
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Shouldnt get upset about the people. They have literally been told for years now that gerrymandering was a republican ploy to keep black people from voting because republicans are racist and want to put black people back in chains.


I recently sat in a meeting where a “minority” representative of a required minority district argued that he would not be satisfied unless the district was “51% black”. As it was drawn at that point the district was 48% black and 9% Hispanic giving it a 57% minority representation.

He even threatened to sue and continued to argue that the district had to be 51% black.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103969 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 2:53 pm to
Hilariously stupid thing is that, by doing that, he likely created more red or purple districts through super-concentrating Dems into one district to hit 51% black.
Posted by Sus-Scrofa
Member since Feb 2013
11056 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 2:57 pm to
Seems to me that by now we should be able to throw all the data in a computer and spit out a map based on population and location that's just pure math.

Straight lines, nothing crazy.
Posted by LSU7096
Member since May 2004
3008 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 3:16 pm to
The are illegal and give the USA shite people as representatives.
This post was edited on 3/27/22 at 7:07 pm
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
49672 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 3:53 pm to
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They HAVE to do this due to population changes. Do you not understand how we, the people, are represented in Congress?



That is fine but they shouldn't be twisting boundaries to create districts based upon racial reasons. Where does it stop? We going to create a district for short ppl? tall ppl? crackheads? Meth heads?
Posted by spslayto
Member since Feb 2004
21943 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 3:59 pm to


Not as bad as Maryland...but Red State Louisiana does it as well...check out Louisiana's district 2. Make sure you get minorities in Baton Rouge and New Orleans in one district and include minority communities between the two cities to fit. And to make sure it's contiguous, we will include a small sliver of West Baton Rouge Parish.

Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103969 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 4:06 pm to
Difference is that LA is required by judicial fiat to have one minority-majority district and everyone is agitating for a second.

Problem is that there is no way to get a second MM district which is done in a legal manner because you have to hopscotch across Shreveport, Monroe, BR, and Lafayette to pull it off.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49520 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 4:33 pm to
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Gerrymandering should be illegal

There should be a simple algorithm that determines the district boundaries with the most equitable distribution of population using only these parameters:
- state boundaries
- natural geological boundaries (major rivers, mountain ranges, natural marine shorelines, etc.)
- existing city boundaries
- existing Interstate or Federal road routes
- one straight line between two most optimum points selected by the algorithm to minimize the summation of all boundary circumferences as determined by the prior 4 constraints.

develop the algorithm and turn it loose every ten years - live with the results.
This post was edited on 3/25/22 at 4:35 pm
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49520 posts
Posted on 3/25/22 at 4:37 pm to
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LA is required by judicial fiat
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judicial fiat to have one minority-majority district

Make that illegal - same as Jim Crow type abuses.
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