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re: Judge says Trump does not have right to say and do what he pleases, issues gag order.

Posted on 10/16/23 at 12:54 pm to
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
25494 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 12:54 pm to
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So you only care when it's done to political rivals.

Neat.


So you concede Biden stole the 2020 election.

Neat
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 12:55 pm to
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That's wild to me. Innocent until proven guilty.

Well, think of it this way. There are millions of citizens who are incarcerated due to not being able to make bail, some who remain that way for years prior to ever getting the chance for a trial. Many of these people are 100% innocent.

They'd kill for these restrictions to get bonded out
Posted by Dday63
Member since Sep 2014
2393 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 1:08 pm to
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Trump's status as a political candidate really puts this case in the gray area lying between past rulings. It will be a close call. Definitely not 7:2.


Thing is, he has no need to criticize Jack Smith and the Court personnel as part of his campaigning. I think he is still free to say the case against him is political and lacks merit, and that the DOJ is out to get him. Just leave out the names.

I doubt Trump appeals. If he goes, SCOTUS won't even take it up.
Posted by Swampcat
Member since Dec 2003
12713 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 1:10 pm to
So Trump can just Hv his peoples speak for him. Situation solved.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63089 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 1:12 pm to
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Sounds reasonable.


I don’t think nuts reasonable to limit negative speech about the judge.
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
10502 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 1:12 pm to
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This. Being able to openly criticize public officials and policies is the very core of the First Amendment


What!?!?!

I thought the 1st Ammendment was in place for perverted beer bellied men with fetishes to twerk at public libraries in front of toddlers.

Not political speech from presidential frontrunners! That is just too far and extreme!
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 1:19 pm to
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cwill

which ones are you today?
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
77755 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 1:24 pm to
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
68480 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 1:24 pm to
DJT been witch hunt.
Posted by TigerIron
Member since Feb 2021
4015 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 1:29 pm to
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Trump's ego gets him into dumb situations.


If you think this ruling is a good idea, you are opening the way to shut down any opposition political candidate by filing charges against him.

Sorry, you're being prosecuted, now one of the furthest left judges in the country gets to decide what you get to say in a primary election year.
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 1:31 pm to
Trump has played stupid games and is winning stupid prizes.
Posted by dukkbill
Member since Aug 2012
1050 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 1:37 pm to
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The way Chutkan is interpreting this, she's defining any member of the prosecution up through the entire DOJ as off-limits from criticism.


He can criticize the DoJ, just not Jack Smith individually. He can still state it’s a partisan prosecution, he just can’t say Smith is a thug

He can also criticize DC,the prosecution tried to make that part of the gag order
Posted by dukkbill
Member since Aug 2012
1050 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 1:41 pm to
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er than Smith, which of these parties are "public officials"?


At a minimum, Brad Raffensperger. Also, everyone on the Special Counsel staff is a public official
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28180 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 1:43 pm to
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The order restricts Trump’s ability to publicly target court personnel, potential witnesses,


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Sounds reasonable.

I don't disagree.

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or the special counsel and his staff.

Hell no. This is a political prosecution and they're political actors, and apparently the judge is as well.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 1:48 pm to
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Biden stole the 2020 election.


Anyone who believes that must also believe that Trump is even more incompetent than the POTatUS.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 1:48 pm to
Only you and TDS posters dont believe it yet you "voted for him"
Posted by Cromulent
Down the Bayou
Member since Oct 2016
3349 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 1:49 pm to
You better get to Religion class young lad
Posted by GoldenGuy
Member since Oct 2015
12782 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 1:50 pm to
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Following the two federal indictments against the former president, Trump has lashed out against prosecutors, potential witnesses and the judge overseeing the election subversion case in Washington. Prosecutors with special counsel Jack Smith’s office say these comments are enough to warrant a narrow restriction on Trump’s speech around the case.


They forgot their usual go to of “His comments could cause radical right wingers to go ballistic and attack one of these people.”
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 1:51 pm to
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sandboxofstolenvalor87
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Only you and TDS posters dont believe it


So Joe Biden personally cucked Trump, and we're supposed to buy Trump as the strong leader this country needs? What's he done to show you that he won't be cucked by Biden again?

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yet you "voted for him"


Who?

I didn't, and I've never claimed that I did.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 1:52 pm to
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Who? I didn't,






Lying little b!tch.....
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