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re: Journalists arrested and assaulted by cops in Ferguson without cause

Posted on 8/14/14 at 10:03 am to
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
93480 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 10:03 am to
did you see the footage i posted from last night in the other thread?

protectin' and servin' and blowing the frick out of protesters last night in st louis
Posted by TK421
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2011
10420 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 10:07 am to
Can someone explain what exactly the protesters are trying to achieve? What's the end goal?
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104174 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 10:17 am to
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Can someone explain what exactly the protesters are trying to achieve? What's the end goal?


Dead cops and/or free shite is the end goal for a lot of the ones out at night.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
35887 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 10:27 am to
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Just there doing their job.. right?

can't tell the press not to film,, right?


of course if Obomao and holder showed up ...
Some people would find a way to slur Obama in a thread about making toast. Do you think they look at the Poli Board and say "Man, there aren't nearly enough threads mentioning Obama in them."





Actually, if Obama or Holder showed up and arrested the reporters, this board would light up with cries of "TYRANNY" "Obozo is shitting on the Constituion"!
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
12536 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 10:32 am to
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i'm not supporting the police state here, but this isn't even a story anymore. it's just protesters and media doing things on purpose to cause a police reaction, then trying to use that reaction as proof of some bigger point



If police are easily swayed into abusing their powers because of OTHER PEOPLE'S ACTIONS, they have failed. They ARE failures.

Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85186 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 11:06 am to
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What about night two, three, four etc....? There was activity all those nights too.


The activity you are citing is tiny in comparison to night one.

There were flare ups of small group of people just looking for trouble. None of them were protests and none of them needed military style tactics to squash.

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That is why I am asking when you think the rioting became the result of the police?


What happened last night was no where near rioting. It was two goons who threw shite at cops and the cops retaliated with their toys.

I'm not saying it was directly caused by police, but it was most certainly instigated and welcomed by the guys wanting to play army. There was absolutely no reason for them to show up to the protest like they did. There hasn't been a single instance of violence at the rally's, all of it has been isolated groups of thugs and they have been dealt with.

The cops are attempting to intimidate the people and its fueling the emotions of the opposition.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 11:32 am to
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He was not arrested you dufuss.





Are you willfully stupid or what?
Posted by kilo
No block, no rock
Member since Oct 2011
30184 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 11:42 am to
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Are you willfully stupid or what?


frick you. The amount of anti-police nonsense in this thread is ridiculous
Posted by kilo
No block, no rock
Member since Oct 2011
30184 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 11:56 am to
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The activity you are citing is tiny in comparison to night one.


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There were flare ups of small group of people just looking for trouble. None of them were protests and none of them needed military style tactics to squash.


This is just complete nonsense.

The crowd out there at 900pm wasnt there for any other reason than to cause trouble. Thats when they were cleared. The crowd had molotov cocktails,rocks,beer bottles etc all thrown at police.

The night before a "protester" pointed a firearm at a police officer and was shot. A drive by aimed at police missed the police and hit a women in the head.

Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85186 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 12:00 pm to
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The crowd out there at 900pm wasnt there for any other reason than to cause trouble. Thats when they were cleared. The crowd had molotov cocktails,rocks,beer bottles etc all thrown at police.


The people out there at 9pm were not the same individuals that were at the protest. The dynamic completely changed in response to hundreds of armed officers on military vehicles putting their dicks on the table.

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The night before a "protester" pointed a firearm at a police officer and was shot. A drive by aimed at police missed the police and hit a women in the head.



Quit lying. The incident with the gun was not a protest. The cops got a call about 4 individuals in ski masks roaming the streets with guns. The cops showed up, chased one, and he pointed the gun at the cops and was subsequently shot.

Again, not a protest.
Posted by kilo
No block, no rock
Member since Oct 2011
30184 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 12:04 pm to
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Quit lying. The incident with the gun was not a protest. The cops got a call about 4 individuals in ski masks roaming the streets with guns. The cops showed up, chased one, and he pointed the gun at the cops and was subsequently shot.

Again, not a protest.




Some of you just latch onto your anti police beliefs and ignore reality. Thats cool. You can ignore the reality and ground truth and just run with "cops bad" "cops to blame for everything" all you want.

Those incidents happened just after the crowd was broken up that night. Not 200-300 yards fromt where the main protest was located. None lived in the area and came from St Louis city for the protests.
This post was edited on 8/14/14 at 12:08 pm
Posted by kilo
No block, no rock
Member since Oct 2011
30184 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 12:07 pm to
quote:

The people out there at 9pm were not the same individuals that were at the protest. The dynamic completely changed in response to hundreds of armed officers on military vehicles putting their dicks on the table.


The first people to put their "dicks on the table" were the rioters and looters who destroyed or had stolen millions of dollars of property when there were no controls in place.

I cant believe you expect some people to believe that the police are to blame. Its almost comical.
This post was edited on 8/14/14 at 12:08 pm
Posted by igoringa
South Mississippi
Member since Jun 2007
12419 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 12:09 pm to
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but it was most certainly instigated and welcomed by the guys wanting to play army. There was absolutely no reason for them to show up to the protest like they did.


Given 4 nights of violence, I do not think it was unreasonable for the city and police to request that the public gatherings occur during the day time until the violence ceased. Accordingly I think groups of people chanting kill the police, no justice; no peace; and purposely and willfully going out last night for the sole reason to violate that request probably wear a good chunk of the 'instigator' clothing.

Violations of law and hateful rhetoric started long before any police instigation. I don't believe those last night were planning not to violate the request but only did so because the cops had toys.

And yes, I am concerned about the militarization of the police force but instances like this are far from the case studies that I would cite. This perception that lawlessness, blatant disregard for law and other people's property is acceptable because you are 'mad' is simply appalling to me... and has been around for decades - well before the militarization.

It is like we accept it now as acceptable behavior that simply requires only a few political words of please stay calm and that's it. Examples need to be made of those who use these events for evil. The cycle needs to be broken.

Just like the cop needs to be punished to the full extent of the law if the facts support such.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 6:53 pm to
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I'm arguing that its on the cops when they show up to a civil protest in the middle of the day with para military vehicles. They are poking the bull and instigating things.

As I said, there was no sign of the thugs until 4hrs after the cops started using their heavy handed tactics to push the peaceful protestors back.


So there were riots every night for several nights and because the cops show up in riot gear prepared to handle another riot that night and you are upset about that.

It's more likely those rioters would have rioted 4 hours earlier if the cops hadn't shown up in riot gear.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
35887 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 7:03 pm to
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So there were riots every night for several nights and because the cops show up in riot gear prepared to handle another riot that night and you are upset about that.




That wasn't riot gear.


Snipers, M-16s, MRAPS are not riot gear. The cops were looking for a fight. They were taunting the protesting(peaceful protesters at that) calling them "animals" and telling them to "Bring it on". They were hitting people with laser sights. Why? They were trying to intimidate the protesters, pushing them to do one thing that would then "justify" extreme prejudice.
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