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re: Journalists arrested and assaulted by cops in Ferguson without cause

Posted on 8/14/14 at 8:18 am to
Posted by Brightside Bengal
New Metairie
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 8:18 am to
I'm starting to get the feeling that the Ferguson Police Department is going to be essentially sued out of existence down the road after this whole debacle.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 8:19 am to
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They do if the private business consented. Do we know if they did?


We don't, and that is certainly possible. I was reading both reporters' tweets as the situation unfolded though, and I didn't get the impression the McDonald's management consented to it. They certainly didn't ask for the cops to come in and shut their business down.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85186 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 8:20 am to
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I'm starting to get the feeling that the Ferguson Police Department is going to be essentially sued out of existence down the road after this whole debacle.


In their defense, it wasn't Ferguson PD yesterday who was rattling the sabers... The chief of police was unaware of what was going on and made the phone call to have the journalists released when he found out what was going down.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477573 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 8:20 am to
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I do not understand this "choice" to be confrontational or not.

you know the guys who have friends who fight and then talk a lot of shite, and when their opponents bow up, the guys hide behind their friends?

that is what you have going on here, all around (and likely what started this situation. and i do not condone shooting an unarmed person unless he as going for the gun, which is in dispute)

the media thinks that b/c they are "media" or have a camera, they can be a dick and have no repercussions. and then on the flip side, they know if there are negative repercussions, they will just invent a narrative, interject themselves in the story, and get national pub

regardless of what i WANT reality to be, reality is reality. people think they can enrage others and still be protected from the response. i'm not defending the cop here, but he was following orders. if there was an issue, it was with who gave the orders. there are riots going on all around this scenario, so it's not exactly a sunday stroll. if a cop fricks up, you comply and then take it up with the person who either gave the orders or who oversees the operation. arguing with a ground trooper will get you nowhere and do nothing, except put you in harms way potentially
Posted by Rickety Cricket
Premium Member
Member since Aug 2007
46883 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 8:24 am to
I really don't like anyone involved in these riots. The cops, politicians, media, rioters, protestors. All of them. I feel sorry for the uninvolved people who just want to live their lives.
Posted by igoringa
South Mississippi
Member since Jun 2007
12419 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 8:24 am to
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So reading comprehension isn't your strong suit...


No I think I understand what the words 'since an unarmed 18-year-old named Michael Brown was shot and killed by a police officer Saturday The quote in question.'

Largely peaceful since Saturday, swat team came in yesterday - that is the quote. Again, swat team yesterday - largely peaceful since Saturday. I laughed at the largely peaceful since Saturday. A 5 year old could crack that.

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You are referring to others days protests and the comment was directed at the specific protest yesterday that was peaceful until the thugs showed up with their toys and started instigating shite.


Oh so by 'protests since Saturday', they meant only yesterday and not since Saturday.... gotcha. Thanks for explaining that 'since Saturday' does not mean since Saturday... as that is a touch confusing since traditionally since Saturday usually would be construed to mean.... since Saturday.

I stand corrected. The author was not saying peaceful protests since Saturday, what he means was peaceful protests since Saturday (yesterday). I mean how can since Saturday be construed as anything other then 'specific yesterday'.

Thanks for the understanding of your reading comprehension.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477573 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 8:29 am to
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I feel sorry for the uninvolved people who just want to live their lives.

a few of them were on the live feeds after the rioters wouldn't break up. they were coming out of their houses like "i live here. i'm not doing shite. THEY are"
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85186 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 8:32 am to
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earlier today, when SWAT teams descended on the largely peaceful protests that have been taking place since


I didn't realize the officers were time cops and were jumping back to other protests

It is obvious they are addressing the peaceful protest that was going on until the para military showed up with 100 officers in order to disperse them.

And btw, most of the protests have been peaceful... There have been dozens of protests over the past 4 days and only a few incidents.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37345 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 8:33 am to
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Just there doing their job.. right?

can't tell the press not to film,, right?


of course if Obomao and holder showed up ...
Some people would find a way to slur Obama in a thread about making toast. Do you think they look at the Poli Board and say "Man, there aren't nearly enough threads mentioning Obama in them."
Posted by Rickety Cricket
Premium Member
Member since Aug 2007
46883 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 8:34 am to
With all of the smoke, yelling of "fall back" and explosions, they'd probably do best going on a COD binge.
Posted by igoringa
South Mississippi
Member since Jun 2007
12419 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 8:34 am to
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"Officers slammed me into a fountain soda machine because I was confused about which door they were asking me to walk out of,"


Yes, that is exactly what I took from the video. He was really truly trying to follow orders. Again, as the facts come out his may very well become a clear case of police over reach - but these guys were complete and utter douches that are trying to be the story. And yes being a douche is not an arrestable offense.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477573 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 8:38 am to
at leas the cops displayed that they will be dicks to white people if the white persons acts like a dick
Posted by igoringa
South Mississippi
Member since Jun 2007
12419 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 8:38 am to
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I didn't realize the officers were time cops and were jumping back to other protests


Nope the cops were involved in the protest today. Clearly. Not in doubt.

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It is obvious they are addressing the peaceful protest that was going on until the para military showed up with 100 officers in order to disperse them.


No, it was obvious the media was continuing the MSNBC spin that the protests have been by and large peaceful since Saturday (with very few bad apples). That has been the talking point over and over again. It was not by 'mistake' that they accidently threw it in again in a time to frame the current police aggression (which of course is completely unwarranted as things have been largely peaceful since Saturday). Apparently, their trickery worked on atleast one person

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And btw, most of the protests have been peaceful... There have been dozens of protests over the past 4 days and only a few incidents.


Yes, what is a little rioting and destruction of stores amongst friends. All in good fun. See you at Quik trip.
Posted by igoringa
South Mississippi
Member since Jun 2007
12419 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 8:40 am to
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at leas the cops displayed that they will be dicks to white people if the white persons acts like a dick


But as Reilly said - if they will do that to a white reporting, imagine... just imagine the horrible horrible things they would do to 'someone else'.

This is comedy of the highest degree but it catches folks hook line and sinker. Depressingly funny.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
76574 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 8:41 am to
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i'm not supporting the police state here, but this isn't even a story anymore. it's just protesters and media doing things on purpose to cause a police reaction, then trying to use that reaction as proof of some bigger point


Yup.
Once rioting starts all parties look bad and any one can make hay out of it which ever way you lean.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477573 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 8:42 am to
trying to create a story about the cops from one tactical guy following orders and reacting to shite talking would be like making a statement about black people by having the amazing racist go into the protest and mocking black people, then filming the response of black people
Posted by igoringa
South Mississippi
Member since Jun 2007
12419 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 8:48 am to
Exactly, but alas it works. It is the new media game.

Next thing you know an illegal alien will go down to the border and tweet about getting arrested because he is illegal.

Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85186 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 8:48 am to
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Yes, what is a little rioting and destruction of stores amongst friends. All in good fun. See you at Quik trip.



Whether you like it or not, the majority of protests have been peaceful. There have been 4-5 protests EVERY day since the incident took place.

You cite one group causing issues and that wasn't even a protest, it was nothing more than idiots using a situation as an excuse to riot... Of which all of the arrested do not even live in Ferguson.





This post was edited on 8/14/14 at 8:53 am
Posted by igoringa
South Mississippi
Member since Jun 2007
12419 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 8:57 am to
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Continue to show your ignorance...


From the guys that says 'since Saturday' means only yesterday. Thanks for the advice but I think I will pass.

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Whether you like it or not, the majority of protests have been peaceful. There have been 4-5 protests EVERY day since the incident took place.


ofcourse a lot of the protests have been peaceful, and there have been several incidents that have not been. But the author of the quote in question was trying to spin it as a tulip exchange ceremony for the past 5 days and that is not the case.

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You cite one group causing issues and that wasn't even a protest, it was nothing more than idiots using a situation as an excuse to riot... Of which all of the arrested do not even live in Ferguson.


yes using a situation as an excuse to riot - I agree. And we have seen a significant history of that. And personally I think the fact that such a problem is occurring warrants careful consideration.

Naw, just kidding - largely peaceful and move on... nothing to see here except the big bad police picking on the little man. Again, why react to a little riot - that is not even a protest! I mean the fact shite disturbers are travelling in to wreck shite.... cmon who really cares - peaceful brother.

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Whether you like it or not, the majority of protests have been peaceful


Yes yes I hate it so much that there have been several peaceful protests. By denying the political correct bullshite that it has been all one big flower power hug fest that is exactly what I am saying.

Clearly nothing has happened in the town that should require the police to be on any kind of alert. Everyone has been singing choir songs for 4 days and out of know where big brother has come in and reeked authoritative havoc. I bet they were the 'opportune' rioters themselves!

Am I doing it right?
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85186 posts
Posted on 8/14/14 at 9:03 am to
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ofcourse a lot of the protests have been peaceful, and there have been several incidents that have not been. But the author of the quote in question was trying to spin it as a tulip exchange ceremony for the past 5 days and that is not the case.


So you admit there have been more peaceful protests than protests that were meant to cause trouble.

So that would mean a majority of them have been peaceful

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Am I doing it right?


Yup, showing that you have no intent on looking at the situation objectively
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