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re: Jordan Peterson’s thoughts on Judeo-Christians

Posted on 7/14/26 at 9:40 pm to
Posted by Indefatigable
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Posted on 7/14/26 at 9:40 pm to
I thought this guy evaporated into thin air like 10 years ago, honestly
Posted by Jimbeaux
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Posted on 7/14/26 at 9:41 pm to
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Jesus fought the Pharisees, who the present group running Israel are connected to -Jesus referred this group as the synagogue of Satan
how familiar are you with the Old Testament? How often were God and his prophets happy with the kings and the temple rulers?
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
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Posted on 7/14/26 at 9:55 pm to
Let me explain that supporting the Jewish people does not mean supporting every whim of their govt or agreeing with giving them shitloads of money.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
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Posted on 7/15/26 at 12:38 am to
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I’m not offended as much as annoyed at his ignorance after studying these things for years. God has one covenant people. All who trust in Christ by faith are His people, whether Jew or Gentile. The promises are not to the Jew alone, and Christianity is the fulfillment of the promises to Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, and David.


The land promises of the Abrahamic Covenant are still in effect, I dont see how anyone who reads Genesis 15-17 can think otherwise. There were 3 parts of the Covenant, 2 could be considered fulfilled but very specific, unilateral, unconditional, and unending promises were made for possession of Canaan, specifically to Abraham's descendents, explicitly through Isaac instead of Ishmael. The Covenant theology and supersessionism explanation of this is incredibly weak, claiming that these specific promises are typologically fulfilled. Claiming that an eternal, one sided, and specific promises of possession of a specific land to a specific ethnicity can be metaphorically fulfilled is nonsensical.
Posted by BoarEd
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Posted on 7/15/26 at 12:49 am to
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WTF?… oh, it’s SpecialEd. Carry on.


Sick burn. Got me right in the feels, I tell ya.

Yes, he's wrong.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 7/15/26 at 1:36 am to
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Claiming that an eternal, one sided, and specific promises of possession of a specific land to a specific ethnicity can be metaphorically fulfilled is nonsensical.
It isn’t metaphorical, it’s typological. The New Testament tells us how the promises are fulfilled: in Christ, and through Him, expanded and not canceled. Jesus is the true seed of Abraham (Gal. 3:16), the great High Priest (Heb. 7), and the Son of David who reigns forever (Luke 1:32-33). In Him, the inheritance itself is enlarged: Abraham is heir not merely of Canaan, but of the world (Rom. 4:13). The true heirs of Abraham are no longer defined by bloodline but by faith: if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s offspring, heirs according to promise (Gal. 3:29). The land was never the end and goal of the promise, and even Abraham himself looked for a better, heavenly country (Hebrews 11:16).

I believe covenant theology is a superior way of interpreting scripture as a singular text with continuity from the one, unchanging God.
Posted by lurking
Member since Nov 2022
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Posted on 7/15/26 at 5:56 am to
Sounds like the good doctor is heading for another rehab stint.

Sad.
Posted by RemyLeBeau
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 7/15/26 at 7:25 am to
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I thought this guy evaporated into thin air like 10 years ago, honestly


That was at the end of Infinity War, Endgame brought him back.
Posted by Wildcat1996
Lexington, KY
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 7/15/26 at 7:35 am to
IB4 some leftist doosh with a grossly inflated view of their own intellect calls Peterson dumb.

Oops. Too late.

Posted by Tmo Sabe
GA
Member since Mar 2022
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Posted on 7/15/26 at 7:36 am to
White Eastern Europeans hijacked the dead religion of Judaism and mixed in some satanic teachings and call themselves Jews to this day.

Those folks aren't even semitic.

Biblical Judaism was always about saving faith in the messiah prophesied in Gen 3:15.

Jesus preached to the remnant on Judaism left in his day and they rejected and killed him and were ultimately scattered to the ends of the earth not long after.

Christianity is all that remains of biblical Judaism.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 7/15/26 at 7:37 am to
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And remember, you proud "Christians" objecting in all your purity to the term: Christ Himself was a Jew.


and you killed him for it-
Posted by Wildcat1996
Lexington, KY
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 7/15/26 at 7:39 am to
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Yes, he's wrong.


No he isn't . While the code contains elements of the 10 commandments, it says virtually nothing of the Pentateuch beyond that.

You write like someone that took a 200 level anthropology course and now think you are an expert. It is similar to some doosh that took a film class and feels it necessary at parties to explain why the movies we all love are actually terrible. It's an absolutely insufferable behavior.


Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 7/15/26 at 7:44 am to
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I think that Dennis Prager is a moral person for the most part, but because he doesn't believe in Christ, has said that he doesn't think watching porn is immoral
id have to go back and revisit this but dont think thats what he said. More like which is worse...watching kiddie AI porn to satisfy your need or actual porn and/or making it/abusing a child. Not that the latter isn't "immoral".

One thing about Prager is that he is a very pro-Christian America, and our foundation.
Posted by mailman85
Kentucky
Member since Mar 2013
355 posts
Posted on 7/15/26 at 7:48 am to
Oh that's right Peterson works for Shapiro, more pro Jewish propaganda
Posted by Lizardman2
Member since Jan 2024
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Posted on 7/15/26 at 7:52 am to
Wes Huff has got to be so exhausted from scraping the remnants of pseudo- scholars from the bottom of his shoes.

Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 7/15/26 at 8:00 am to
This Israel thread is surprisingly based


I’m guessing it’s because all the lazy boomers haven’t woken up yet to defend the country they love most while all us hardworking millenials are already at work picking taxes for Israel
Posted by Tmo Sabe
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Posted on 7/15/26 at 3:00 pm to
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covenant theology is a superior way of interpreting scripture


Yes. 100%
Posted by hashtag
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Posted on 7/15/26 at 5:09 pm to
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The land promises of the Abrahamic Covenant are still in effect, I dont see how anyone who reads Genesis 15-17 can think otherwise.


Joshua 21:

43 Thus the Lord gave to Israel all the land that he swore to give to their fathers. And they took possession of it, and they settled there. 44 And the Lord gave them rest on every side just as he had sworn to their fathers. Not one of all their enemies had withstood them, for the Lord had given all their enemies into their hands. 45 Not one word of all the good promises that the Lord had made to the house of Israel had failed; all came to pass.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 7/15/26 at 5:20 pm to
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Judeo Christian is still a made up phrase from WWII and our country was founded on Western European Christian principles no matter what he says.


This. All day long and twice on Sundays.

Pre ww2, the term referred to converts from Judaism to Christianity. I think that group is called Messianic Jews today.

Past that, it is a political term coined to shape public sentiment.
Posted by Tom288
Jacksonville
Member since Apr 2009
21616 posts
Posted on 7/15/26 at 5:56 pm to
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Jordan Peterson


I'm getting kind of sick of Peterson lecturing Christians, or speaking as an authority, while being too much of a pussy to take that leap of faith. The Hebrews practiced proto-Christianity. Since the destruction of the Second Temple Judaism has been dominated by its Rabbinic tradition and elevation of the Talmud over the Torah. They are now, and have always been, direct enemies of the Church. I'm not even going to qualify that statement with some bullshite about "Not all Jews are bad" because I'm sick of that little humiliation ritual.

Christianity is the fulfillment of the scriptures found in the Torah & Tanakh. It's also a covenantal work which explains how Israel lost its inheritance and how it was moved over to a new nation, a new chosen people, that being the Church, which is where Western values come from. Our values do not come from Judaism broadly speaking and, when they do, the Hebrew roots serve as the proto-Christian church and the values, themselves, are still largely distilled from the Early Church and its stewardship over Europe from Rome to the discovery of the New World.

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So much noise online regarding the term "judeo-Christian." Guys -- in academia it's simply the term that describes the combined corpus of Old and New Testaments.


Yes, because the strict academic definition and not the wider one is really what matters. Of course a Calvinist will appeal to terminology & definitions.
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