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re: John Kerry: Russia has until Monday to reverse course in Ukraine(update pg1)
Posted on 3/14/14 at 2:30 pm to TIGERSandFROGS
Posted on 3/14/14 at 2:30 pm to TIGERSandFROGS
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Nope. Sorry me calling you "bone-headed" hurt your feelings so badly. Good luck surviving this world with tissue-thin skin.
Actually, I just usually ignore folks like you, why is I didn't even bother with the rest of your post.
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Then again, I'm pretty sure you're just using the "bone-headed" remark as an excuse to not retort because you can't hold your ground against the half dozen people, myself included, that pointed out that you have no idea what you're talking about.
I'm not sure which posters you're talking about, but you must be really insecure to feel the need to keep harping about what others are saying. You may not realize this but popularity is not a synonym for righteousness, which is why my popularity on this board is the least of my worries.
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 3:42 pm to trackfan
Posted on 3/14/14 at 3:48 pm to dante
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I, personally, want Obama and Kerry to just shut their yappers.
Posted on 3/14/14 at 3:51 pm to trackfan
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During the Cold War, the worst thing any President did when Russia invaded or meddled in the affairs of its neighbors - whether it was Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Poland, East Germany or Afghanistan - is issue statements of condemnation.
You haven't a clue, have you?
Posted on 3/14/14 at 3:53 pm to Tony Tiger89
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John Ketchup Kerry Light weight!! Merkel scares Putin more than Odumbass and Kerry put together!!
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Tony Tiger89
Riveting commentary, ole chap!
I anxiously await your next installment!
Posted on 3/14/14 at 3:53 pm to Jrv2damac
Maybe one day a vet from a Obama/Kerry war will throw some medals over the fence at the White House. If Obama is still POTUS, the vet will be branded a racist. If a Repub is POTUS, the Dems will want to nominate the guy for the Senate.
Posted on 3/14/14 at 3:56 pm to Prominentwon
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Russia Is Preparing to Invade East Ukraine, Estonia Says
Crimea is one thing, but invading eastern Ukraine may take it to a whole other level. It wouldn't end well.
Posted on 3/14/14 at 3:56 pm to Prominentwon
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Russia Is Preparing to Invade East Ukraine, Estonia Says
I'm shocked
Posted on 3/14/14 at 3:57 pm to redandright
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You haven't a clue, have you?
He does not have a clue, but thinks he does.
Posted on 3/14/14 at 4:08 pm to Prominentwon
Yep. Reserving the right to "protect Eastern Ukrainians" now instead of ethnic Russians.
Posted on 3/14/14 at 5:59 pm to GetCocky11
quote:No. It will give us even more opportunities to throw down false gauntlets and draw even brighter red lines in shifting sands. Obama and Kerry need to STFU until they have a coalition on board.
Crimea is one thing, but invading eastern Ukraine may take it to a whole other level. It wouldn't end well.
By extension that means they need to STFU PERIOD!
Neither is respected enough for a foreign entity to sacrifice squat in response to a US request for coalition.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 2:46 pm to trackfan
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Here's how I see it. During the Cold War, every President deferred to Russia's de facto Monroe doctrine in the Eastern hemisphere, in return for them respecting ours in the Western hemisphere. Some time between the collapse of the Soviet Union and 9/11, it seems that a presumption began to take root in Washington that America's Monroe doctrine had expanded to encompass the entire globe. Perhaps the fact that W's Iraq war went unchecked despite intense world-wide opposition contributed to this mindset. What I think is happening now is that Putin is letting the U.S. know that the old rules still apply, and the neocons and American nationalists are having a hard time accepting it.
I hardly ever agree with Pat Buchanan on domestic politics, but when it comes to foreign policy, I find myself agreeing with him 99% of the time, which is more than I agree with all but a handful of Democratic politicians. In his column that came out today, he seems to have been reading my mind:
"Consider the world Putin saw, from his vantage point, when he took power after the Boris Yeltsin decade. He saw a Mother Russia that had been looted by oligarchs abetted by Western crony capitalists, including Americans. He saw millions of ethnic Russians left behind, stranded, from the Baltic states to Kazakhstan. He saw a United States that had deceived Russia with its pledge not to move NATO into Eastern Europe if the Red Army would move out, and then exploited Russia’s withdrawal to bring NATO onto her front porch.
Had the neocons gotten their way, not only the Warsaw Pact nations of Central and Eastern Europe, but five of 15 republics of the USSR, including Ukraine and Georgia, would have been brought into a NATO alliance created to contain and, if need be, fight Russia. What benefits have we derived from having Estonia and Latvia as NATO allies that justify losing Russia as the friend and partner Ronald Reagan had made by the end of the Cold War? We lost Russia, but got Rumania as an ally? Who is irrational here?
Cannot we Americans, who, with our Monroe Doctrine, declared the entire Western Hemisphere off limits to the European empires—”Stay on your side of the Atlantic!”—understand how a Russian nationalist like Putin might react to U.S. F-16s and ABMs in the eastern Baltic? In 1999, we bombed Serbia for 78 days, ignoring the protests of a Russia that had gone to war for Serbia in 1914. We exploited a Security Council resolution authorizing us to go to the aid of endangered Libyans in Benghazi to launch a war and bring down the Libyan regime. We have given military aid to Syrian rebels and called for the ouster of a Syrian regime that has been Russia’s ally for decades.
At the end of the Cold War, writes ex-ambassador to Moscow Jack Matlock, 80 percent of Russia’s people had a favorable opinion of the USA. A decade later, 80 percent of Russians were anti-American. That was before Putin, whose approval is now at 72 percent because he is perceived as having stood up to the Americans and answered our Kiev coup with his Crimean counter coup. America and Russia are on a collision course today over a matter—whose flag will fly over what parts of Ukraine—no Cold War president, from Truman to Reagan, would have considered any of our business."
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