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re: John Kerry: Russia has until Monday to reverse course in Ukraine(update pg1)
Posted on 3/13/14 at 4:18 pm to dante
Posted on 3/13/14 at 4:18 pm to dante
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We are by treaty bound to come to the aid of Ukraine if they called for it
Isn't Russia bound by the same treaty?
Yep, and from Putin's perspective, Russia is the only treaty member who has moved in to assist in Ukraine.
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Posted on 3/13/14 at 4:24 pm to dante
"or else...."
Posted on 3/13/14 at 4:27 pm to Ace Midnight
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Or else what?
This isnt the 80's. the global economy is much more interdependent now.
Sanctions can have the desired effect if they strong enough and have wide enough participation.
Unfortunately i think they will fall short on both counts.
But hit Putin's Oligarchs in the pocket and the internal support for him will sour quickly.
They like their opulence in russia.
This post was edited on 3/13/14 at 4:28 pm
Posted on 3/13/14 at 4:30 pm to BobBoucher
quote:Odrama is that you?
This isnt the 80's.
quote:Worked for Iran huh?
Sanctions can have the desired effect if they strong enough and have wide enough participation.
quote:No doubt.
Unfortunately i think they will fall short on both counts.
quote:Russia's 1% needs to pay.
But hit Putin's Oligarchs in the pocket and the internal support for him will sour quickly.
Posted on 3/13/14 at 4:33 pm to Jbird
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Russia's 1% needs to pay.
Money drives politics.
Posted on 3/13/14 at 4:34 pm to BobBoucher
quote:Right until the revolution.
Money drives politics.
Posted on 3/13/14 at 4:45 pm to Trauma14
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Without enough background, it sounds like if Alaska wanted to leave the US and join Canada. No one should care except the US and Canada.
A better analogy would be if canada marched troops into Alaska and then Alaska declared it was joining canada.
Posted on 3/13/14 at 6:10 pm to Jbird
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Welcome to the 80s
Not so, because the USA is unilaterally disarming itself down to 1918 levels of force size and readiness while RUSSIA re-arms and energizes its armed forces.
Not the 80s at all. The US did not unilaterally disarm itself back then.
Posted on 3/13/14 at 6:12 pm to dante
this is good. we are gonna flex nuts and not back it up.
Posted on 3/13/14 at 7:28 pm to USMCTiger03
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Pretty sure the US was pretty involved globally through the entire period you reference.
What in the frick are you talking about?
During the Cold War, the worst thing any President did when Russia invaded or meddled in the affairs of its neighbors - whether it was Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Poland, East Germany or Afghanistan - is issue statements of condemnation.
Posted on 3/13/14 at 7:35 pm to Choctaw
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voting for the Iraq war doesn't make you a neocon
That's true, but I think deep down Hillary is a neocon but she knows she has to keep her true feelings under wrap if she doesn't want to anger the Democratic base. I think Kerry probably voted for the Iraq war because he lacked the courage of his convictions at a time when he thought that a "no" vote would hurt him Presidential prospects. However, Joe Lieberman was probably one of the most hardcore neocons in all of Congress despite being a Democrat.
Posted on 3/13/14 at 7:39 pm to TOKEN
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A nuclear Ukraine that is EU friendly would scare the shite out of Russia, plus a return to our plans with missile shields in Poland. Begin bringing Ukraine into NATO and see how bad Putin wants to hold on to Crimea.
Putin would react to any U.S. attempt to put nuclear missiles in Ukraine about the same way JFK reacted to the Soviet attempt to put nuclear missiles in Cuba.
Posted on 3/13/14 at 7:39 pm to trackfan
Hillary, Kerry and a lot of others voted for the war so they could later claim to be 'moderates' instead of 'liberals'. Just posturing for future elections.
Posted on 3/13/14 at 7:46 pm to FightinTigersDammit
Posted on 3/13/14 at 7:50 pm to NYNolaguy1
Meh, Kerry and Obama are only tough against our own troops.
Posted on 3/13/14 at 7:51 pm to ItNeverRains
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Is he going to make them use Hunt's Ketchup?
That would be cruel and unusual punishment.
I am disappoint that there is no fark of everyone laughing at Kerry on CNN.
Posted on 3/13/14 at 7:53 pm to trackfan
Joe is Neo Conservative? Who fricking knew?
Posted on 3/13/14 at 8:35 pm to Jbird
Posted on 3/13/14 at 8:36 pm to trackfan
Posted on 3/13/14 at 8:42 pm to Jbird
Has anyone ever told you that you're easily amused?
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