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re: John Bel Edwards is a Democrat of a different shade

Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:49 am to
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36236 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:49 am to
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There was one sales tax rate increase, followed by a partial extension of that increase. That's the only tax increases. Not sure that's "throughout his term" but whatever.

You couldn’t be more wrong. For more than half of his term JBE schemed to raise taxes in regular revenue and in several special sessions. He even floated some kind of value added tax scheme and supported a gas tax last year.

These taxes were raised;
Sales tax
Business taxes
Tax online sales
Cigarettes
Taxes on services
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37167 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:55 am to
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Sales tax


I said that

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Business taxes


Which ones? Neither income nor franchise taxes were raised. If you are talking about the tax on business utilities, that's a sales tax.

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Tax online sales


That's "sales taxes"

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Cigarettes


You got me there. I don't smoke so I had forgotten that those were raised. Those seem to be getting raised all over the country by both republican and democrat governors

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Taxes on services


Again, sales taxes.

So I had previously said he raised sales taxes, and I forgot about the cig one. My bad.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14516 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 11:27 am to
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Which ones? Neither income nor franchise taxes were raised. If you are talking about the tax on business utilities, that's a sales tax.


Primarily it was the sales tax, BUT there were a lot of little taxes, but they add up. You didn't hear about them, because the media doesn't really care.

LABI table on business taxes increased
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36236 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 11:40 am to
If I wasn’t taxed on a service but now I am, that’s way more than just saying sales tax went up.

The same thing applies to online sales. If I was paying nothing, but now I’m paying 9 plus per cent, that’s a big deal.

Furthermore there were a host of tic tac taxes, and rule changed and etc. that impacted businesses and individuals.

To say Edwards raise 1.2 Billion dollars all by sales tax increases is flat out wrong and that’s what you were trying to say or at least what I thought you were trying to say.

Reality is for two plus years Edwards fought for all kinds of tax increases, but was thwarted somewhat in the legislature. Don’t forget he first asked for a Billion dollar hike to replace the penny tax when it expired, but settled for 600 Million.

And we still appear to be showing an upcoming surplus.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36236 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 11:42 am to
Thxs Jim, the cost of doing business and the cost of living has increased significantly under Edwards and all his taxes.
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
6462 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 11:43 am to
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The same thing applies to online sales. If I was paying nothing, but now I’m paying 9 plus per cent, that’s a big deal.


you should have always been paying taxes on items you purchased online. You are just bitching about not being able to cheat the system as easily.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36236 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 11:48 am to
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you should have always been paying taxes on items you purchased online. You are just bitching about not being able to cheat the system as easily.

True, but it’s a factor, and a definite increase in taxes.

Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
6462 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 12:00 pm to
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True, but it’s a factor, and a definite increase in taxes.


no it isn't. the fiscal note would 0 because the taxes were always due, always owed. The only difference is the state has teeth to collect them. It wasn't an increase for me because I always report my use taxes.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36236 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 12:10 pm to
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no it isn't. the fiscal note would 0 because the taxes were always due, always owed. The only difference is the state has teeth to collect them. It wasn't an increase for me because I always report my use taxes.


Most people will tell you they paid more taxes. What can I say? The state took more money for folks than they were taking previously.

I don’t hold this against Edwards, Jindal should have been collecting this all along. However, it is a tax increase just as the Trump tax cut was a tax increase for the state. Again, I don’t hold Edwards responsible for that either.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 12:11 pm to
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For some reason major republican donors support this idiot


*people that were Democrats before 2006*
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 12:18 pm to
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*people that were Democrats before 2006*



JBE is one last hurrah and reunion tour for dixiecrats, especially those looking to wet their beaks.

After JBE leaves office, they'll have to go back to keeping up pretenses and gasp, actually support republican candidates because they don't want to lose access to the totem of power.

However, it will be our responsibility to make sure those candidates are legit conservatives and not RINO Alario types.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37167 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 12:35 pm to
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JBE is one last hurrah and reunion tour for dixiecrats, especially those looking to wet their beaks.



Right. I think the next Dem governor candidate you see, in 2023, is going to be full on socialist / identity politics.

The national political scene has started sweeping into LA. The Together BR type groups will grow in influence. Not enough to win statewide office, I don't think, but enough to influence who runs on the Dem side.
Posted by MardiGrasRazorback
Shreveport, LA
Member since Feb 2011
448 posts
Posted on 4/17/19 at 6:28 pm to
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Catholic school teachers get paid less than public school teachers and their scores are fine.


No. Most private schools don't take the state exams at all. They don't have to, even if they take state money. So, there aren't any "scores" that are comparable at all.

Private schools have the advantage of total control over whom they let in and whom they kick out. It makes a huge difference.

Private schools certainly have their own issues that public schools don't have to deal with, but they can't all be painted with the "better than public schools" brush.

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