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re: John Bel Edwards is a Democrat of a different shade
Posted on 4/10/19 at 9:30 am to ExtraGravy
Posted on 4/10/19 at 9:30 am to ExtraGravy
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I remember Vitter working hard, actually.
Really?
I didn't see it at all.
He completely phoned it in and assumed the Governor's race would be just like his senate campaigns and thought it was a transitive race.
He was wrong. He earned and deserved the loss and the humiliation of losing to a liberal democrat in a red state.
Vitter would have won if he made sure JBE did not sneak into the runoff uncontested. He didn't.
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He did make enemies of Dardenne and Angelle,
Scott Angelle was Jindal's candidate against Vitter. Jindal put money, staff and other resources behind Angelle without publicly endorsing him. This was when his feud with Vitter was still raging on pretty hard. He even ended his presidential campaign on the same week of the runoff to frick over Vitter some more.
Oh and Jay Dardenne was and still is a straight up RINO. The fact that he just up and endorsed a liberal in JBE and went to work for him as his CoA to push big government bullshite that any republican should be opposed to is all you need to know about him.
Those two guys were never going to be allies of the frontrunner and someone should've explained to them that if they're going to go that far into the mud against a front runner they had no hope of defeating, they better win as if they don't, they have no future in Louisiana republican politics and they absolutely don't today.
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and a slew of other people who should have been allies.
Have you noticed that a lot of people who outright opposed Vitter are the usual suspects that has kept Louisiana the corrupt and good ole boy politics shithole it still is today?
And I'm talking about not just the pols in the Statehouse but also people like the corrupt sheriffs, ambulance chasers, teachers unions, government workers and and private sector folks who have a lot of money tied up in government contracts.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 9:33 am to Lickitty Split
John Bel Edwards may be a different shade but he is definitely shady.
His goal it seems is to create lawsuits on behalf of the State or Parishes and have them advanced by his buddies on contingency. I suppose he will then return to his rinky dink practice and collect his share of the deals.
His goal it seems is to create lawsuits on behalf of the State or Parishes and have them advanced by his buddies on contingency. I suppose he will then return to his rinky dink practice and collect his share of the deals.
This post was edited on 4/10/19 at 9:36 am
Posted on 4/10/19 at 9:42 am to mindbreaker
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Teachers have gotten one raise in the last 12 years and that was 580$ a year roughly 1%.
Louisiana is at the bottom of of teacher pay average in the country and education scores is a result of that. Good teachers are leaving because we don't pay them.
I agree the state has a multitude of problems but saying teacher pay should be down the list is being willfully ignorant of one of the major problems in this state.
How do you judge merit? Do teachers that teach advanced classes get a raise because they are gifted with children who's intelligence is greater than the average student. Do special needs teachers get the shaft while having arguably the more difficult job. Do we really want the government deciding who gets what raises based on test scores that don't tell the whole story?
Or do we at least try to get teacher average pay in line with the rest of the country so the talented teachers stop leaving the state.
I like the latter option but you can continue to push your bad narrative.
Louisiana ranks last in education. Texas about 25th. Both spend the about the exact same amount per teacher on teacher salaries. What is really eye opening is the Texas has better school facilities (by a mile) but their overhead, as measured by $ per student, is 1/2 of Louisiana.
SO that tells me that Louisiana School Boards are not educational systems but really are Jobs Programs.
ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 9:44 am to Lickitty Split
Two words for you:
Honor. Code.
Honor. Code.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 9:46 am to Lickitty Split
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he Louisiana Governor has raised taxes throughout his term
There was one sales tax rate increase, followed by a partial extension of that increase. That's the only tax increases. Not sure that's "throughout his term" but whatever.
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Where can you show a tangible benefit in your life impinged by the Governor?
None for me. I will say I have some clients that say they are now getting timely paid by the state for projects, because the state actually has cash flow and isn't screwing around with payments the way they were under Jindal. But that's all I got.
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Corruption in New Orleans still exists except its culture is falling behind the Times.
has nothing to do with the governor
What the tax increases did was stabilize the budget. It didn't cut spending or even reform spending or reform anything.
We sure AF aren't going to fix our problems by throwing more money at them, but we aren't going to fix them by blindly cutting or returning to Jindal's financial games, either.
The problem is no one running for office wants to support what we really need to do, and that is completely reform state government and how it interacts with the local governments.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 9:50 am to cajuncarguy
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What is really eye opening is the Texas has better school facilities (by a mile) but their overhead, as measured by $ per student, is 1/2 of Louisiana.
That's because we have a ton of money being spent on mandates from the LA Dept of Education. In Texas, the schools are given very broad guidelines and told to run with it.
Also, a lot of their facilities come from local property taxes. People are willing to pay for nice looking schools if they can be assured that the money will stay in their community and actually go to nice looking schools.
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SO that tells me that Louisiana School Boards are not educational systems but really are Jobs Programs
The same can be said for at least have of our universities.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 9:54 am to Sentrius
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Sentrius
Serious question for you.
We can bang on JBE as a tax and spend liberal, which is fine.
But at what point do we start holding our "GOP" legislature accountable.
Unlike Obama, very little of what JBE has done, has been via executive order. Even the medicaid expansion, the legislature could have passed a bill undoing that / preventing him from doing it. Now, he would have vetoed it, and I'm not sure they had the votes to overcome it, but it would have sent a message.
The fact is, our "GOP" legislature has aided and abetted JBE in his tax and spend ways.
Why doesn't this board throw the same rancor towards the "GOP legislature" as they do towards JBE?
Posted on 4/10/19 at 9:55 am to cajuncarguy
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Louisiana ranks last in education. Texas about 25th. Both spend the about the exact same amount per teacher on teacher salaries. What is really eye opening is the Texas has better school facilities (by a mile) but their overhead, as measured by $ per student, is 1/2 of Louisiana.
Do you have a link or citation on the admin overhead #? That would be useful to know.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:10 am to LSUFanHouston
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But at what point do we start holding our "GOP" legislature accountable.
A lot of them are gone this year thanks to term limits. It's for that reason why I'm more interested in electing legit conservatives than going scorched Earth on RINOs that will be gone this year.
Jeff Landry actually took control of a super pac for this purpose called Louisiana Committee for a conservative majority. LINK
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Unlike Obama, very little of what JBE has done, has been via executive order. Even the medicaid expansion, the legislature could have passed a bill undoing that / preventing him from doing it. Now, he would have vetoed it, and I'm not sure they had the votes to overcome it, but it would have sent a message.
The fact is, our "GOP" legislature has aided and abetted JBE in his tax and spend ways.
JBE has something that Obama wishes he had, the line item veto power. It's how and why the Governor is the most powerful person in this state and why he has the legislature by the balls.
The Legislature is a screw you, I got mine place and no one is going to stick up for the legislator that just saw some projects in his district get canceled by the line item veto after he opposed the Governor.
Back in 2015, a lot of people pissed over Vitter were rationalizing that since the statehouse was GOP, it was ok and safe to vote for JBE as the legislature would keep them in check. I told them and warned them that was a false assumption as that will not work as the Louisiana state government is not like DC and I was right as a democrat Governor has a republican legislature by the balls thanks to line item veto power.
If we ever have another constitutional convention, the line item veto power needs to be eliminated as it gives the Governor too much power.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:15 am to kingbob
Thx. Your ideas seem logical.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:22 am to Sentrius
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JBE has something that Obama wishes he had, the line item veto power. It's how and why the Governor is the most powerful person in this state and why he has the legislature by the balls.
The Legislature is a screw you, I got mine place and no one is going to stick up for the legislator that just saw some projects in his district get canceled by the line item veto after he opposed the Governor.
Back in 2015, a lot of people pissed over Vitter were rationalizing that since the statehouse was GOP, it was ok and safe to vote for JBE as the legislature would keep them in check. I told them and warned them that was a false assumption as that will not work as the Louisiana state government is not like DC and I was right as a democrat Governor has a republican legislature by the balls thanks to line item veto power.
If we ever have another constitutional convention, the line item veto power needs to be eliminated as it gives the Governor too much power.
The line item veto isn't even close to being the Governor's most powerful weapon. There are a LOT of little things he controls: board appointments and the areas they oversee, etc.
But the biggest one is lines of credit. This is a little boring and complicated, but basically even if the legislature approves a project, it doesn't proceed unless he sends it to the Bond Commission. That's it, period. No override, no action to oppose he just doesn't send in the project. That's fierce.
You add in a compliant senate and it becomes very hard to stop a governor. If Alario wasn't in the Senate I think the last 3 years would have been VERY different.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:25 am to White Bear
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Thx. Your ideas seem logical.
Thank you. If the pay for being a high school chemistry, math, or history teacher wasn't so shitty, I probably would have done that coming out of high school instead of gone into construction. I think some teachers are underpaid, and I think the market should be allowed to determine which ones they are.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:27 am to BigJim
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This is a little boring and complicated, but basically even if the legislature approves a project, it doesn't proceed unless he sends it to the Bond Commission
Somewhat along those lines, why does every time a parish want to issue a bond, they have to go before the state bond commission? That seems to be yet another example of how much power the state holds. Local governments should be able to issue their own bonds at will provided they are backed by local revenues.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:29 am to BigJim
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The line item veto isn't even close to being the Governor's most powerful weapon. There are a LOT of little things he controls: board appointments and the areas they oversee, etc.
But the biggest one is lines of credit. This is a little boring and complicated, but basically even if the legislature approves a project, it doesn't proceed unless he sends it to the Bond Commission. That's it, period. No override, no action to oppose he just doesn't send in the project. That's fierce.
This. If you want to talk about raw power to have their will be done, the only person in this country with more unilateral power than the Governor of Louisiana is the President of the United States, and that is only because the President has control over the armed forces and can send them to war without a declaration of war or a prior defense authorization (a power that I believe is blatantly unconstitutional).
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:31 am to LSUFanHouston
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Somewhat along those lines, why does every time a parish want to issue a bond, they have to go before the state bond commission? That seems to be yet another example of how much power the state holds.
Louisiana's state constitution was written in large part by a tyrannical despot governor who wanted all power centralized under him and him alone. The governor is the center of power with the legislature having power really only in name. The local governments are all inferior subsidiaries of the state government and govern only at the state's convenience.
Essentially, Louisiana is an elected dictatorship with the governor as the supreme leader.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:33 am to BigJim
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The line item veto isn't even close to being the Governor's most powerful weapon. There are a LOT of little things he controls: board appointments and the areas they oversee, etc.
But the biggest one is lines of credit. This is a little boring and complicated, but basically even if the legislature approves a project, it doesn't proceed unless he sends it to the Bond Commission. That's it, period. No override, no action to oppose he just doesn't send in the project. That's fierce.
You add in a compliant senate and it becomes very hard to stop a governor. If Alario wasn't in the Senate I think the last 3 years would have been VERY different.
This.
It's why it's so important that JBE be defeated this fall along with installing a conservative supermajority.
If moderate republicans and conservative democrats truly realized how much power the Governor has over the legislature, enough of them would've swallowed the bitter pill that was David Vitter.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:34 am to kingbob
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1. School boards pay however much they believe it will take to attract applicants.
2. Allow school boards to vary the pay of different positions widely.
3. Have pay raises based on merit rather than tenure.
4. Eliminate tenure completely.
There is nothing stopping a school board from implanting the first three ideas today, right now. The fourth might take a little more work. The idea of tenure in a college environment is very iffy to me, there is absolutely no reason for tenure in K-12 education.
In 2019, we have all the data and all the tech we need for principals and school boards to be able to give reasonable precision to a teacher's quality. Just like major corporations, you can still use "pay bands" to guide compensation discussions. I would give each principal X dollars per student for him to fill out his entire staff - teachers, assistant principals, janitors, office workers, etc.
Of course, the problem is the principals haven't been trained to do that, and I'm not 100 percent sure they can be. I've always thought each school needed someone - maybe a few smaller schools can share a person - who was sort of a CAO of sorts, someone to handle stuff like this. It would be a person with a business background.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:36 am to LSUFanHouston
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Somewhat along those lines, why does every time a parish want to issue a bond, they have to go before the state bond commission? That seems to be yet another example of how much power the state holds. Local governments should be able to issue their own bonds at will provided they are backed by local revenues.
It's why power needs to be decentralized away from Baton Rouge in a constitutional convention. Our Governor needs to have the amount of power that say, the Governor of Texas holds which is a hell of a lot less.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:39 am to kingbob
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Louisiana's state constitution was written in large part by a tyrannical despot governor who wanted all power centralized under him and him alone.
And JBE is is a huge fan of the Governor that's responsible for our current state constitution and even gave a speech at his 90th birthday party.
And on top of that, he idolizes Huey Long who institutionalized a lot of corruption and graft that continues to keep Louisiana a good 20-30 years behind the rest of the country. LINK
Conservative democrat my arse.
This post was edited on 4/10/19 at 10:41 am
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:41 am to TBoy
I’m not affiliated with any campaign and I’m definitely not paid. These are my own individual thoughts and ideas. I’m glad you think my statements sound scripted. I came up with all of that after several drinks.
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