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re: Joe Scarborough: 2nd Amendment Doesn’t Protect ‘Weapons of War’

Posted on 3/18/19 at 12:15 pm to
Posted by Lou the Jew from LSU
Member since Oct 2006
4703 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 12:15 pm to
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Joe is either dishonest, or historically illiterate.


He can be both
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19227 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 12:17 pm to
That’s fair
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
59650 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 12:17 pm to
That's why me and pops got us some .22 ARs

Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54209 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 12:18 pm to
Hey Joe, about the only gun that I know of that has never been used as a weapon of war is a derringer. You saying that should be the only gun us Americans are allowed to own?
Posted by IslandBuckeye
Boca Chica, Panama
Member since Apr 2018
10067 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 12:18 pm to
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Joe is either dishonest, or historically illiterate.


Why not both?

Sorry Lou, you beat me to it.
This post was edited on 3/18/19 at 12:19 pm
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19698 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 12:20 pm to
Mika must has seriously crazy poon for this guy to become so whipped
Posted by Uncle Stu
#AlbinoLivesMatter
Member since Aug 2004
33659 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 12:21 pm to
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They understood, and worried, that a standing army could be used by the central government to suppress the people.



All circles back to the surging Marxist wing disguising itself as the DNC. Communism is nothing more than failed Socialism forced upon the people at the end of a gun barrel. When starving citizens revolt against a socialist dictatorship, it'd sure be alot better if those citizens had inferior, or no weapons at all
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16568 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 12:21 pm to
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Heck, look at US v. Miller - they ruled that sawed-off shotguns could be banned because they DON'T have a military application.



Miller was a very poorly argued and decided case too. The decision hinged on the opinion that short-barreled shotguns do not serve a useful purpose as ordinary military equipment but such shotguns found widespread use in WW1 and would see use in every US-participated conflict since.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63495 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 12:22 pm to
Because muskets were all they knew. There was no need for them to specify.
They had no knowledge of what was to come.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134860 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 12:22 pm to
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but such shotguns found widespread use in WW1

Ehhhh, they may have been widely issued, but didn't see much trigger time at all
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16568 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 12:23 pm to
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The comparison for purposes of the Framers’ intent isn’t very useful.



Like you have a clue kid.

Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134860 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 12:23 pm to
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Because muskets were all they knew. There was no need for them to specify.
They had no knowledge of what was to come.

Are you trying to be obtuse or is that just a result of your health problems?
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80115 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 12:24 pm to
It certainly didn't protect "Weapons of Whore" with him.
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
13447 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 12:25 pm to
Uh, Joe- it's called "inalienable", you stooge.


The left really is a psychotic bunch. They try to tell us Trump is Hitler and we don't need guns for protection from tyranny- at the same time. Wrong on both counts.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20415 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 12:26 pm to
Yep it starts with I own guns and I am a hunter but.......
Posted by TideCPA
Member since Jan 2012
10358 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 12:27 pm to
What’s ironic is that the US military currently uses pump shotguns, semi-auto shotguns, semi-auto handguns, and bolt-action rifles. Those are all literally current “weapons of war”. Yet leftists only want to ban semi-automatic rifles, which have not been standard issue for over half a century.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134860 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 12:27 pm to
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Yep it starts with I own guns and I am a hunter but.......


...you can't hunt a deer with an AR-15. There won't be anything left of it after you shoot it!
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16568 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 12:28 pm to
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Because muskets were all they knew.



This is a lie, you maybe grievously ignorant of the state of small arms technology of that time but the Founders certainly were not.

quote:

There was no need for them to specify.


They knew that arms could mean a variety of personally owned weapons. Muskets, pistols, knives, swords, daggers, etc. Hence the non-non-specific term "arms".
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19227 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 12:28 pm to
And usually includes some mention of clips.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19227 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 12:32 pm to
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Because muskets were all they knew. There was no need for them to specify.
They had no knowledge of what was to come.


They would have welcomed the effectiveness of modern firearms. Because it reduces the advantage a regular force has over the average citizen.
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