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re: Joe Rogan takes HoRsE DeWoRmEr, beats Covid in 3 days

Posted on 9/2/21 at 10:00 am to
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 9/2/21 at 10:00 am to
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Rogan says he took a drug the FDA urges people not to use That included taking ivermectin, a deworming veterinary drug that is formulated for use in cows and horses. While a version of the drug is sometimes prescribed to people for head lice or skin conditions, the formula for animal use is much more concentrated. The Food and Drug administration is urging people to stop ingesting the animal version of the drug to fight COVID-19, warning it can cause nausea, vomiting, abdominal pain, neurologic disorders and potentially severe hepatitis requiring hospitalization.


Why do they phrase it like this?

It’s not a fricking horse dewormer?

It’s an antiparasitic drug used in humans and animals


Amoxicillin is used in cattle. Do we call it a horse antibiotic? Why can’t the media just be honest.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 9/2/21 at 10:00 am to
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I have a question. WHERE are all these variants coming from? Influenza doesn't mutate nearly this fast, and it runs up against a vaccine every year. For that matter, and I am just a layman and not a physician or a scientist, but I don't recall hearing of any virus doing this.


Every virus does this. Influenza has a segmented genome, which allows it to undergo antigenic shift occasionally, but there are a lot of things that need to happen for that to occur. RNA viruses will mutate more than DNA viruses, and novel viruses will mutate more than robust ones.
Posted by Gcockboi
Rock Hill
Member since Oct 2012
7689 posts
Posted on 9/2/21 at 10:02 am to
The FDA is beyond corrupt. They do whatever the pharmaceutical companies they're in bed with say. Trump should've destroyed it.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 9/2/21 at 10:02 am to
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That the stilted definition of vaccines used here doesn't reflect the actual reality of what immunologic principles are behind each vaccine, where there are meaningful differences.


This was touted as a miracle cure by the Biden Administration.

Forgive us if we're skeptical.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36501 posts
Posted on 9/2/21 at 10:03 am to
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But there are mounting studies showing anti-viral efficacy of ivermectin




The equivalent dose to reach the levels of ivermectin needed to reach what the studies done in test tubes is 50x the human dose. Edited. Even 10x the dose would not reach the levels needed.

The most positive study for ivermectin was retracted in shame for falsifying data.

The meta analyses that keep showing up are driven by that falsified study.
This post was edited on 9/2/21 at 10:11 am
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36501 posts
Posted on 9/2/21 at 10:03 am to
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This was touted as a miracle cure by the Trump Administration.




FIFY
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 9/2/21 at 10:03 am to
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He would have been fine without it. That’s how placebos work.
in other words taking it was perfectly safe and preventing people from doing so by force of law is stupid
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62186 posts
Posted on 9/2/21 at 10:05 am to
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Pretty sure nothing he took did anything and his healthy body did the job


Regeneration works. It’s crazy to think otherwise.

No idea about Ivermectin.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 9/2/21 at 10:05 am to
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The equivalent dose to reach the levels of ivermectin needed to reach what the studies done in test tubes is 10x the human dose.


And the accumulation of ivermectin in lung tissues is 10x the level found in blood. That should clear things up for you.

It’s a plausible treatment. Needs more investigation. Acting like you have all the answers is making you look like an idiot.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
43997 posts
Posted on 9/2/21 at 10:06 am to
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Ivermectin has continually proved to be astonishingly safe for human use. Indeed, it is such a safe drug, with minimal side effects, that it can be administered by non-medical staff and even illiterate individuals in remote rural communities, provided that they have had some very basic, appropriate training. This fact has helped contribute to the unsurpassed beneficial impact that the drug has had on human health and welfare around the globe, especially with regard to the campaign to fight Onchocerciasis.57)


LINK

As a layman, it seems the mode of function here is to eliminate inflammation in the body thus defeating the virus.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 9/2/21 at 10:09 am to
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This was touted as a miracle cure by the Biden Administration.

Forgive us if we're skeptical.



You can be skeptical and still avoid poor logic.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36501 posts
Posted on 9/2/21 at 10:10 am to
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And the accumulation of ivermectin in lung tissues is 10x the level found in blood. That should clear things up for you.



Excuse me I should have clarified. 50x the normal human dose. Even 10x would not reach the concentration needed in the lungs.

LINK

LINK
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33429 posts
Posted on 9/2/21 at 10:14 am to
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That the stilted definition of vaccines used here doesn't reflect the actual reality of what immunologic principles are behind each vaccine,

wut? So just keep changing the definitions of words, until libtards can claim victory, right?
quote:

Vaccine:

A suspension of live (usually attenuated) or inactivated microorganisms or fractions thereof administered to induce immunity and prevent infectious diseases and their sequelae.

These shots dont meet that defintion, however . . . .
quote:

therapeutic:

1 having a beneficial effect on the body or mind
2 producing a useful or favorable result or effect


It was sold as a vaccine, but real world results demonstrate that it is simply a therapeutic, to prevent escalation of an infection
Posted by meaux5
New York, NY
Member since Sep 2010
11026 posts
Posted on 9/2/21 at 10:18 am to
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He listed like four treatments that were obviously prescribed by a doctor, and the NPC community literally thinks he went to tractor supply. And these people want to lecture others on being ignorant.


These motherfrickers are so blatantly dishonest. Pisses me off
Posted by Clockwatcher68
Youngsville
Member since May 2006
7731 posts
Posted on 9/2/21 at 10:22 am to
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It blows my mind that the left has framed Ivermectin as some trash animal drug when it won the Nobel Prize for medicine in 2015

The left is anti science

2015 Nobel Prize LINK


Obviously Fauci and his pals don’t have an angle to line their pockets with Ivermectin sales.
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
14089 posts
Posted on 9/2/21 at 10:29 am to
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10x the human dose


That is good information, thank you. Do you know how that compares to the cow dosage?

The human dosage was orig prepared for other uses, obviously. Is it possible that. 10x dose would not necessarily be too much for human consumption, simply it was never made to that concentration because it served a different purpose?

As a disclaimer: im not recommending anyone to take 10x the regular dose. Just posing questions from my own curiosity.
Posted by ManBearSharkReb
Member since Dec 2018
5494 posts
Posted on 9/2/21 at 10:35 am to
It’s called muddying the waters. They focus on that and don’t mention that this drug has been FDA approved for decades and it’s harmless.
It definitely has more data on its long term use than any of the vaccines.
Posted by The Eric
Member since Sep 2008
24165 posts
Posted on 9/2/21 at 10:38 am to
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Hell I got better in 1 day without it. I’d argue that ivermectin kept him sick for longer


If it wasn't for the total loss of taste and smell I would have never even thought I was "sick".

I had some fatigue at the end of the week... which isn't a big surprise during a busy work week.

COVID has killed some people... healthy people really don't have anything to worry about. Joe Rogan is pretty damn healthy
Posted by Floating Change Up
Member since Dec 2013
12887 posts
Posted on 9/2/21 at 10:44 am to
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Pretty sure nothing he took did anything and his healthy body did the job. What he described was a normal covid case for a fit 50-year-old. Actually you could say it was on the more severe side for a normal Covid experience.


I'm not saying you're wrong.

But if you *are* correct -- then way are we bombarded every day that anyone not wearing a mask and all people not vaccinated are literally murderers?

Why so much fear mongering for something so benign?
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
23204 posts
Posted on 9/2/21 at 10:49 am to
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So if this is the basic course, then why the push for vaccines?

Except in the case of comorbitiy?


Just want to point out that Tiguar never came back to address this point. That’s because he can’t
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