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re: JFK File Data Dump has officially begun

Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:12 pm to
Posted by aubiecat
Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
5158 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:12 pm to
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Who's going to volunteer to read all 80,000 pages tonight and give us a book report tomorrow?

Let AI summerize it for us.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
14540 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:12 pm to
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Who's going to volunteer to read all 80,000 pages tonight and give us a book report tomorrow?

The world has changed bro.

Just need AI to take it from here. See what the differences are between AI platforms.

Here’s Grok3:
The release of the JFK assassination files, including the latest batches up to March 18, 2025, has provided additional details but no definitive "smoking gun" that radically alters the established narrative from the Warren Commission—that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. Based on the available information, here are some of the most notable revelations that have emerged from these releases, particularly highlighted in various analyses:

1. **CIA Monitoring of Oswald in Mexico City**: Documents reveal that the CIA closely tracked Oswald’s movements during his trip to Mexico City in September 1963, just weeks before the assassination. This includes CIA cables and memos detailing his visits to the Soviet and Cuban embassies. A memo from November 24, 1963, notes an intercepted call indicating Oswald spoke with a KGB officer at the Soviet Embassy, suggesting he was on the agency’s radar. Some speculate this could point to a missed opportunity to prevent the assassination, though no evidence confirms CIA involvement in a conspiracy.

2. **George Joannides and the DRE Connection**: A significant find is a declassified August 1963 memo authored by George Joannides, a CIA covert operations officer in Miami. It authorizes $25,000 to the Directorio Revolucionario Estudiantil (DRE), an anti-Castro group Oswald contacted in New Orleans. This has fueled speculation that the CIA might have been manipulating Oswald, possibly as a propaganda tool against Castro, though it doesn’t prove he was directed to kill Kennedy.

3. **FBI’s Late Discovery of Documents**: In February 2025, the FBI announced it had uncovered 2,400 previously unrecognized records related to the assassination, found due to technological advances in record-keeping. This raised questions about transparency, as these files had not been reviewed under the 1992 JFK Records Act until Trump’s 2025 declassification push. While their contents aren’t fully detailed yet, experts suggest they reinforce existing knowledge rather than rewrite it.

4. **LBJ’s Theory on Retribution**: A 1975 deposition from former CIA Director Richard Helms, released earlier, quotes President Lyndon B. Johnson suggesting Kennedy’s assassination was payback for the U.S.-backed killing of South Vietnam’s President Ngo Dinh Diem weeks earlier. This offers insight into LBJ’s mindset but lacks corroborating evidence of a foreign conspiracy.

5. **No Major Conspiracy Evidence**: Despite public anticipation, historians and experts like Gerald Posner and Steve Gillon have emphasized that the releases, including the 80,000 pages on March 18, 2025, don’t overturn the lone gunman conclusion. Details like CIA surveillance failures or Oswald’s political motivations (beyond being a sociopath) enrich the historical context but don’t confirm alternative shooters or agency orchestration.

These revelations provide a deeper look into intelligence operations and Oswald’s activities during the Cold War era, yet they largely align with the official account. The persistence of redactions—around 3,000 documents remain partially or fully withheld—keeps conspiracy theories alive, with some arguing the CIA hides embarrassing lapses or deeper ties to Oswald. However, the consensus among those who’ve studied the files is that while intriguing, the new information doesn’t deliver earth-shattering proof of a broader plot. For the latest specifics, the public can access these files via the National Archives, though sifting through them remains a task for dedicated researchers.
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
14933 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:14 pm to
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
48881 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:15 pm to
Nice! Flying early in the morning for four hours. I'm gonna' have lots of time, but will be checking Clif notes here.
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
69718 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:18 pm to
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2020 was the biggest political mistake by these COMMUNIST BASTARDS, maybe their worst mistake since inception of Their evil movement going centuries back.

Had they just played keep away & used the Judicial system to delay delay delay the MAGA movement and then set up for 2024, this world would be in more trouble than it is now.

My theory is that they got so complacent because they had both parties in their pockets & Trump came out of nowhere & they freaked out.

Overplayed their hand, Covid was there CHECKMATE to take him out, then steal an election and had no idea how strong that Orange Warrior is!



You might be right but I think they fully expected trump to be either dead or in jail in nov 2024
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
2605 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:22 pm to
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Barberitos, 1000% Correct 2020 was the biggest political mistake by these COMMUNIST BASTARDS, maybe their worst mistake since inception of Their evil movement going centuries back. Had they just played keep away & used the Judicial system to delay delay delay the MAGA movement and then set up for 2024, this world would be in more trouble than it is now. My theory is that they got so complacent because they had both parties in their pockets & Trump came out of nowhere & they freaked out. Overplayed their hand, Covid was there CHECKMATE to take him out, then steal an election and had no idea how strong that Orange Warrior is! And by having 4 years to game plan, put the team together, knowing how it all works, then he came roaring with a Gameplan that is like SPURRIER in the 90’s It’s their job to try and stop us, until then, we must score points daily! And now with their money trains being cut off, they aren’t half the threat they were before. Now they have to go into their own pocket books, and they are losing their minds. We have to full court press, no breaks til the end. And let’s hope they really want to get physical here domestically, I welcome that fight! It’s the only way we truly eradicate the mental illness epidemic in their party.



This post was edited on 3/18/25 at 6:23 pm
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
37107 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:22 pm to
2nd page

In like Flynn
Posted by NashvilleTider
Your Mom
Member since Jan 2007
13823 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:22 pm to
Posted by This GUN for HIRE
Member since May 2022
4533 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:25 pm to
In 2015 how many of them publicly stated "Trump will never win"?

They genuinely believed he had no chance.
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
11409 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:26 pm to
Just give me the cliff on the juicy parts.
Posted by The Baker
This is fine.
Member since Dec 2011
17147 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:27 pm to
So what was so troubling that it caused trump not to release it the first go around.

He said it was bad.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19973 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:27 pm to
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These revelations provide a deeper look into intelligence operations and Oswald’s activities during the Cold War era, yet they largely align with the official account.


So if nothing new is actually revealed, why keep them a secret for 60 years??
Posted by HoumaTigerFan
Member since Jan 2008
5570 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:29 pm to
An AI summary might be available soon. lol.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
18457 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:29 pm to
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Documents reveal that the CIA closely tracked Oswald’s movements during his trip to Mexico City in September 1963, just weeks before the assassination. This includes CIA cables and memos detailing his visits to the Soviet and Cuban embassies. A memo from November 24, 1963, notes an intercepted call indicating Oswald spoke with a KGB officer at the Soviet Embassy, suggesting he was on the agency’s radar. Some speculate this could point to a missed opportunity to prevent the assassination, though no evidence confirms CIA involvement in a conspiracy.


Yeah this isn't really a secret. While it was never "officially" released, I have heard ex-CIA people discuss the fact that Oswald was in touch with communist contacts in foreign countries. James Woolsey (ex CIA director) has mentioned it before.
This post was edited on 3/18/25 at 6:34 pm
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
79566 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:30 pm to
Here is the link to march 18th release


Archives.gov
Posted by 4x4tiger
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2006
4428 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:30 pm to


With that said, someone else is gonna have to read all that and tell me who killed JFK
This post was edited on 3/18/25 at 6:33 pm
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
54881 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:30 pm to
Curious about the Giancana wiretaps
and what is said about Marcello
Posted by NashvilleTider
Your Mom
Member since Jan 2007
13823 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:31 pm to
They will also release 30,000 pages more tomorrow as well
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
70473 posts
Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:31 pm to
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Shouldn’t an AI have already done that and provided a summary? It’s been several minutes.

There's over 1100 individual PDFs
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