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re: Jeff Landry to push for new death penalty methods after 14-year pause in executions
Posted on 1/26/24 at 9:55 pm to 4cubbies
Posted on 1/26/24 at 9:55 pm to 4cubbies
4cubbies, here is the details of the murder Kenny Smith committed all for $1000. This is the guy you are up in arms about.
Have you contacted the victims families and told them how they were wrong for wanting the execution carried out?
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Smith parked his car at the back of the Sennett home and knocked on the door, lying to Elizabeth that he and his friend were interested in hunting on the property and wished to look around the grounds. After spending some time outside, Smith again knocked on the door and lied to Elizabeth, telling her the men needed to use her bathroom, which she graciously allowed. Inside the house, Elizabeth was ambushed, violently punched, beaten, and bludgeoned, and stabbed over and over again with the six-inch survival knife that Smith and Parker had brought with them. After the crime, two witnesses described how Smith’s hands were “puffed up” or “wrapped and bruised,” evidence that suggested that he had struck many of the blows inflicted on Elizabeth. In addition to countless lacerations and abrasions that she sustained to her body, Elizabeth suffered a total of ten stab wounds—eight to her chest and two to her neck—which proved fatal. Elizabeth’s face was harmed so terribly during the attack that an emergency medical technician at the crime scene, who was a close friend of the Sennett family, commented that he would have never recognized her if he did not already know the identity of the victim.
Have you contacted the victims families and told them how they were wrong for wanting the execution carried out?
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Posted on 1/26/24 at 10:06 pm to BugAC
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I believe murder of any life should be illegal.
Are you really playing semantics games to justify the government executing its own citizens?
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I also believe in taking responsibility for your own actions.
Except taking responsibility for the results of your faux opposition to abortion?
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I am a small government conservative
Giving the government power to execute its own citizens is not small government. That’s giving the government the most extreme amount of power there is.
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Why do violent murderers get afforded clemency?
Because everyone should. One person doing a bad thing doesn’t justify anyone else doing a bad thing. I literally had this conversation with my 4 year old today.
Regarding your scenario: why are you claiming I don’t care about the little boys when I’ve stated that I value the life and human dignity of all humans? I have devoted the majority of the last 10+ years to working with kids, most of whom didn’t have fathers in their lives for various reasons, including because their fathers were murdered in cold blood. Of course i care about them.
Do you care about the children of the alleged murderer who will grow up without a father after the state executes him?
Killing some one who did something horrible doesn’t undo the horrible thing(s) that person did.
It just removes part of our own humanity.
Posted on 1/26/24 at 10:10 pm to 4cubbies
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Except taking responsibility for the results of your faux opposition to abortion?
How is someone else’s actions my responsibility? What help am withholding. I pointed out I. Your other idiotic thread that summer meals program was redundant and you avoided that like the plague because it ruined your stupid narrative.
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Giving the government power to execute its own citizens is not small government.
Nah, I leave it up to the states.
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Because everyone should
The murder victims didn’t? I guess tough shite for those poor saps and their families, right?
Posted on 1/26/24 at 10:11 pm to BugAC
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This is the guy you are up in arms about.
I’m “up in arms” that anyone seriously trusts the government to execute its own citizens based on evidence the state collects.
It baffles me that anyone could think this is a good idea.
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Have you contacted the victims families and told them how they were wrong for wanting the execution carried out?
Posted on 1/26/24 at 10:13 pm to 4cubbies
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Do you care about the children of the alleged murderer who will grow up without a father after the state executes him?
Again, personal responsibility. The murderer clearly didn’t care about the repercussions, so now it’s my problem?
Again, personal responsibility. Accountability for your own actions. Something you clearly ignore in exchange for an emotional response.
Yet your emotions are absent for murder victims. Truly strange.
Posted on 1/26/24 at 10:15 pm to 4cubbies
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alleged murderer
And there it is. Dumbass that knowingly and willingly has sex with homeless men and has no issue with allowing the murder of innocent babies doing everything in her power to excuse and protect the violent criminal.
Posted on 1/26/24 at 10:17 pm to BugAC
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How is someone else’s actions my responsibility?
You seem to think every baby conceived is your responsibility, until it’s actually born - then you stop caring about what happens to the baby.
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What help am withholding.
Oh, here we go. You posted ad nauseum about how it’s not your job or responsibility to feed any baby that wasn’t aborted (after lamenting about how morally repugnant abortion is).
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The murder victims didn’t?
Correct. I guess your ideal society behaves in accordance with its most despicable elements. I hold the human race to higher standards than that.
Posted on 1/26/24 at 10:18 pm to 4cubbies
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More evidence that our benevolent government values life.
I honestly didn’t remember you being this retarded back in the earlier TD days. What happened?
Posted on 1/26/24 at 10:20 pm to 4cubbies
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I’m “up in arms” that anyone seriously trusts the government to execute its own citizens based on evidence the state collects.
Agreed, the government shouldn’t be trusted to do anything. We need private citizens to step up and do the job, so we know it’s done right and we don’t overpay.
Posted on 1/26/24 at 10:24 pm to 4cubbies
Why should babies die vs murderers and rapists?
Posted on 1/26/24 at 10:28 pm to 4cubbies
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You seem to think every baby conceived is your responsibility, until it’s actually born - then you stop caring about what happens to the baby.
No, I just think murder is wrong. I’m very consistent with that.
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h, here we go. You posted ad nauseum about how it’s not your job or responsibility to feed any baby that wasn’t aborted (after lamenting about how morally repugnant abortion is)
Why is murder your solution? Do you also advocate the murder of poor children who are starving or the homeless? Why don’t babies get afforded the same leniency you afford adults who made a choice, but you condemn babies who never had a chance to make that choice?
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guess your ideal society behaves in accordance with its most despicable elements. I hold the human race to higher standards than that.
Which is why you don’t understand human nature. You don’t live in reality you live in a world without personal responsibility and where everyone is innocent, even after they brutally rape and murder their victims.
This post was edited on 1/26/24 at 10:31 pm
Posted on 1/26/24 at 10:40 pm to 4cubbies
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I’m “up in arms” that anyone seriously trusts the government to execute its own citizens based on evidence the state collects.
You need remedial civics. The people, via the jury system, determine the guilt of the accused. Once convicted, the state then imposes a sentence—a sentence mandated by laws passed by the people’s elected representatives.
What you want is to ignore the will of the majority of the people in states where the death penalty is legal—and abortion illegal—and force your viewpoint on them through judicial or executive activism.
Posted on 1/26/24 at 10:45 pm to BugAC
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No, I just think murder is wrong. I’m very consistent with tha
But allowing a baby to starve to death because he didn’t choose more responsible parents is perfectly fine with you. Personal responsibility, right?
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Why is murder your solution?
What are you talking about?
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Why don’t babies get afforded the same leniency you afford adults who made a choice, but you condemn babies who never had a chance to make that choice?
?? What? When did i suggest killing babies?
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You don’t live in reality
You live in some pretend world where life is fair and kids get to choose their parents and nothing is ever your responsibility. You’re egocentric, quite like a child. You seem to think we’re all crabs in a bucket, working against each other for survival. What a hell hole that would be.
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where everyone is innocent
no adults are without sin. I don’t want them all to be executed by the government.
Exwcuting a rapist doesn’t undo the rape. Executing a murderer doesn’t resurrect the murdered. Executing someone doesn’t erase any trauma they caused either: it only creates more.
This post was edited on 1/26/24 at 10:47 pm
Posted on 1/26/24 at 10:52 pm to 4cubbies
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More evidence that our benevolent government values life.
Many lives have no value.
Posted on 1/26/24 at 11:20 pm to 4cubbies
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no adults are without sin. I don’t want them all to be executed
Who’s trying to kill them all? Where do you get this ridiculously dumb shite from.
Posted on 1/26/24 at 11:28 pm to 4cubbies
Out of how many?
Posted on 1/26/24 at 11:44 pm to 4cubbies
Firing squads and hangings. Hell yeah.
Posted on 1/27/24 at 1:22 am to SG_Geaux
If you're gonna do it in a humane way, don't do it how Alabama did it. Some kind of device similar to how you kill cows is more humane than suffocating someone.
Posted on 1/27/24 at 6:13 am to 4cubbies
Just use fentanyl, supply issues solved
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