re: Jeff Landry to push for new death penalty methods after 14-year pause in executions

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You realize that death is permanent, right? There’s no undoing an execution.

You think wrongly imprisoning someone is equal to killing someone?

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You realize that those 20 years (or whatever length of time) are gone and not ever coming back when a person is wrongly incarcerated, right? An innocent person could even die while being incarcerated, and they wouldn't be coming back. There's no undoing either case.

I think that nothing in this world is perfect. To deny justice in all cases, to ensure an injustice never occurs in a tiny fraction of cases, is illogical, and morally wrong. Particularly when evidence shows that a person is not only guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, but guilty beyond virtually any doubt (as was the case for Kenny Smith, even he admitted he was guilty).

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Doesn’t mean innocent

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It means not guilty. An overwhelmingly convincing amount of irrefutable evidence is required to overturn a capital conviction.

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The vast majority? They likely did it

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How did you draw this conclusion?

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Giving the government power to execute its own citizens is not small government. That’s giving the government the most extreme amount of power there is.

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No, the government gave the community power to execute its most vile criminals through a jury of the criminals peers.

The government isn't deciding who dies. The citizenry is.

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No, the government gave the community power to execute its most vile criminals through a jury of the criminals peers.

The government isn't deciding who dies. The citizenry is.

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You could apply this to everything that the government does that you don't like

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You realize that those 20 years (or whatever length of time) are gone and not ever coming back when a person is wrongly incarcerated, right? An innocent person could even die while being incarcerated, and they wouldn't be coming back. There's no undoing either case.

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Would you rather be wrongly imprisoned for 30 years or executed? You cannot be serious with this argument.

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Particularly when evidence shows that a person is not only guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, but guilty beyond virtually any doubt

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You're incredibly naive and put a whole lot of faith in the government.

Cameron Todd Willingham was executed in Texas in 2004 for allegedly setting a fire that killed his three young daughters 13 years earlier. He always claimed his innocence, and the arson investigation used to convict him was questioned by leading experts before Willingham was executed. Since 2004, further evidence in the case has led to the inescapable conclusion that Willingham did not set the fire for which he was executed. The Texas Forensic Science Commission issued its report on the convictions of Cameron Todd Willingham and Ernest Willis on April 15, 2011 recommending more education and training for fire investigators and implementing procedures to review old cases
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John Thompson was wrongfully convicted of murder in 1985, and prosecutors failed to disclose evidence that could have exonerated him. Thompson spent 18 years in prison, including 14 years on death row. He was exonerated in 2003 when his defense team discovered that the prosecution had withheld blood evidence that could have proven his innocence. Thompson later sued the district attorney's office, and the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in his favor, finding that the office's failure to train prosecutors on their obligation to disclose exculpatory evidence was a constitutional violation.


More cases where official misconduct led to wrongful convictions in Louisiana alone.

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(as was the case for Kenny Smith, even he admitted he was guilty)

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This thread isn't about Kenny Smith, who was not charged, tried or convicted in Louisiana. His sentence was not carried out in Louisiana.

Not sure why he's brought up repeatedly in this thread.

Innocent and guilty people have been executed by the government.

FYI Angola is full of innocent people. In fact, if you interviewed all of them they would all say they were innocent. “That other dude did it.” The percentage of “wrongfully convicted “ people is ridiculously small.