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re: JD Vance does not back down to this scumbag NY Times Reporter

Posted on 10/12/24 at 8:53 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 10/12/24 at 8:53 am to
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Ronricks is in rare form this morning.


It's not a real ronricks thread until he talks about his body count.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/12/24 at 8:54 am to
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It really just takes an insufferable pompous arse to think that to be considered an educated or highly intelligent person, then you must align yourself with leftist ideology or you by default aren’t educated, or highly intelligence.


Nobody argued this. Holy shite what a straw man.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/12/24 at 8:54 am to
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The best answer would be:


"Our election system declared Joe Biden the winner"

Definitely a better, more intelligent and coherent response.

It would not "own the libs" for the NPCs, though.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/12/24 at 8:58 am to
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JDs question is also very important to a chunk of the population

But still irrelevant to her question.

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Oh noz

Again, he fell into her trap both ways, by allowing her to frame his non-response and then describe his whataboutism crutch.

It's just bad in terms of logic/projection.

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If it alter the outcome of the election then its a question they need to answer

And that's a separate discussion.

A question of who won is a binary response in our system. Either Trump or Biden won.

A discussion of how we got there is a completely separate conversation/discussion.

Again, why I'm pointing out the rhetorical devolution from the Right with this example.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 10/12/24 at 9:00 am to
Big tech silencing the laptop story was part of the puzzle. He knows that the 51 intelligence experts, and the letter they signed, magnified it as well.

I am curious as to why he didn’t push that harder.

Most of them admitted that they never saw any evidence to support that claim, and simply agreed over a telephone call. It was nothing but a political hustle job.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 10/12/24 at 9:06 am to
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She refused. Why?

Because it was non-responsive whataboutism.


That is as dishonest as an email from a Nigerian prince.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/12/24 at 9:07 am to
It's a media interview. The questions flow one way and she certainly not going to respond to a non-responsive and irrelevant question. All you're doing is dismissing the reality of the situation and trying to spin a bad response because you like it.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 10/12/24 at 9:09 am to
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That’s how insecure you are.


Says the guy bragging about his size and saying he can beat up everyone.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 10/12/24 at 9:09 am to
I find people like you to be the most despicable amongst the Krewe of TDS.

You have a lot in common with Harris and Walz. You may as well vote for them.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 10/12/24 at 9:11 am to
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The questions flow one way


Talk about a weak stance.

frick the state run media.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 10/12/24 at 9:11 am to
SFP and Ronricks?
Lol. This thread is dick cancer.

Bye
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 10/12/24 at 9:11 am to
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It would not "own the libs" for the NPCs


no it doesn't


but it denies them the gotcha and allows the doubt to linger
This post was edited on 10/12/24 at 9:12 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/12/24 at 9:13 am to
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Talk about a weak stance.

frick the state run media.


Nobody forced him to do the interview

As I said earlier, if he prefers a disordered, free flowing conversation, there are multiple podcasts who'd love to have him
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/12/24 at 9:14 am to
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but it denies them the gotcha


His mom response gives them a gotcha

quote:

and allows the doubt to linger

Not for their audience

It confirms what she wanted confirmed (election denial) and her audience will eat that up.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 10/12/24 at 9:15 am to
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Big tech silencing the laptop story was part of the puzzle.


Seems this has just been swept under the rug and it should be one of the biggest political stories in our lifetime.

It proved collusion between govt and tech to destroy free speech.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Member since Sep 2003
138752 posts
Posted on 10/12/24 at 9:17 am to
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she certainly not going to respond to a non-responsive and irrelevant question
Odd qualifiers create strawman responses. Try to respond without the editorializing.

Is the question "Are you trustworthy" relevant?
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 10/12/24 at 9:20 am to
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But still irrelevant to her question.



tgat makes sense

quote:

Again, he fell into her trap both ways, 


You could also say she fell into his trap. Cause shes also an election denier

quote:

It's just bad in terms of logic/projection


No one cares but hard core leftist

quote:

Either Trump or Biden won.


Biden is Prez so he won. Its why the quesrion is the dumbest ever

Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 10/12/24 at 9:27 am to
I would have probably asked additional questions: “Can you explain to me what safeguards were in place to provide transparency for massive mail-in voting?”

“Which courts engaged in a full adjudication and fact-finding determination on any significant voting irregularities?”

“Do you think the middle-of-the-night vote counting that exponentially went in favor of Biden in key swing states raised any questions? And if not do you exercise that level of credulity in your every day affairs? And if so would you like to buy some beachfront property from me in Ohio?”

“Do the laptop revelations coupled with gazzillions of dollars laundered in Ukraine immediately following Biden’s phony inauguration raise any questions on your smooth brain?”

“Have you ever seen a grown man naked? Been in a Ukrainian prison?”
Posted by sabanisarustedspoke
Member since Jan 2007
5865 posts
Posted on 10/12/24 at 9:30 am to
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Remember freedom fries?

All the anti-Muslim rhetoric was targeted at the emotional lower class

And you still have a bunch of Evangelicals who support Israel more htan the US at times.



Anti-muslim rhetoric directed after Muslims killed 3000 citizens? Checks out.
Evangelical Christians supporting Israel more than themselves? Retarded. Even for you.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476467 posts
Posted on 10/12/24 at 9:31 am to
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Odd qualifiers create strawman responses

Descriptive qualifiers.

quote:

Try to respond without the editorializing.



I answered the question you asked.

You just don't like the answer.

quote:

Is the question "Are you trustworthy" relevant?

She asked a binary question of his view.

Given the paradigm of that question, her trustworthiness is irrelevant. Perhaps had she not asked a simple, binary question, this would apply. Certainly if she was editorializing or giving opinions/framing, this would apply. However, neither were present.

It was a binary, yes/no question.
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