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re: JBE's legalized bribe to teachers for their vote ...

Posted on 10/4/19 at 11:31 am to
Posted by i am dan
NC
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Posted on 10/4/19 at 11:31 am to
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Useless gesture, too. Any Democrat is gonna have the teacher’s union vote locked up without doing anything.


Goes to my point. Be happy to be getting something out of it if it is only $1000 more in salary. Maybe next year a R will take over and do better.

Posted by musick
the internet
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 10/4/19 at 11:35 am to
I'm in edu-tech and I got the 1k too. It's not much but my check is bigger now each month and I'll take it.

Ascension also matched it and gave their teachers an extra $1500 as well.

It helps my family, wife is a teacher as well.

But frick JBE
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14506 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 11:41 am to
Wait, did he use the apparatus of the state to enhance his reelection campaign???


Isn't that an impeachable offense according to Congressional Democrats?

Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 10/4/19 at 11:57 am to
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However... that 1K raise led to our school board reworking their budget and coming up with an additional 2600 per year per teacher. So our teachers got a 3600 raise this year.

I don't know if that happens if the 1K wasn't announced first. Maybe it does... but there wasn't any talk about it.


That same budget included extra money to school districts which can give their own raises
Posted by LSUgrad1998
Member since Aug 2018
775 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 11:59 am to
:rotflmao:

Are you kidding? This is the same (R)controlled legislature that failed to fully fund education and teacher pay raises throughout Jindal's 8 year tenure as Governor. Now teachers are to believe that a new (R) governor will give them significant raises? JBE got the $1,000 for teachers this year because it was an election year, and the (R) legislature knew to oppose it would cost them seats. If JBE could have gotten teachers more, he would have. The biggest problems with La government isn't with the governor, it's with a RINO controlled legislature.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:01 pm to
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just take the grand and shut up.


Don't tell me what to do!
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24799 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:14 pm to
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Are you kidding? This is the same (R)controlled legislature that failed to fully fund education and teacher pay raises throughout Jindal's 8 year tenure as Governor. Now teachers are to believe that a new (R) governor will give them significant raises? JBE got the $1,000 for teachers this year because it was an election year, and the (R) legislature knew to oppose it would cost them seats. If JBE could have gotten teachers more, he would have. The biggest problems with La government isn't with the governor, it's with a RINO controlled legislature.


I'm not one to preach to about spending more money on a suffering education system. I don't agree that money would fix it.

We didn't have all this tech crap back in our day, and I learned calculus, physics, literature, etc just fine with a teacher standing and talking with an overhead projector.

It's all about attitude and the drive to succeed. I don't think money fixes that.
This post was edited on 10/4/19 at 12:16 pm
Posted by i am dan
NC
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Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:15 pm to
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Don't tell me what to do!


I do what I want!!
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14506 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:18 pm to
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Are you kidding? This is the same (R)controlled legislature that failed to fully fund education and teacher pay raises throughout Jindal's 8 year tenure as Governor.


What the heck do you mean by "fully fund" education? K-12 education was increased EVERY YEAR under Jindal. It just wasn't increased as much as local school boards and teacher unions would have liked.

What he did do was reform how the money was being spent through massive school reform.

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The biggest problems with La government isn't with the governor, it's with a RINO controlled legislature.


Huh? So are you complaining about the raise not being enough, or that it was given with the approval of RINO legislators?

Something here doesn't mesh.


Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23115 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:43 pm to
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What the heck do you mean by "fully fund" education? K-12 education was increased EVERY YEAR under Jindal. It just wasn't increased as much as local school boards and teacher unions would have liked.




LINK
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While Louisiana fared better than some states, per-student spending between FY08 and FY14 dropped more than 4 percent when adjusted for inflation. That’s equivalent to $212 less in state support for each student.

The finding is hardly surprising, as state policymakers have failed to fully fund the K-12 Minimum Foundation Program (MFP) for five straight years. While overall funding has gone up due to enrollment growth, per-student funding has been frozen since 2008, resulting in $560 less in basic support for each student. Frozen funding means larger class sizes, fewer tutoring opportunities and cancelled after school programs.


Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14506 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 1:23 pm to
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when adjusted for inflation


See, there is your problem right there.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22785 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 1:29 pm to
Your not the boss of me!

did too. did not. did too.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23115 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 1:31 pm to
You don't have to bold anything. Did you read the whole thing?
Posted by Macfly
BR & DS
Member since Jan 2016
8110 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 1:35 pm to
He also kicked them in the arse by increasing state tax.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37140 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 2:06 pm to
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which parish?


Da Parish
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37140 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 2:08 pm to
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That same budget included extra money to school districts which can give their own raises


Yeah, the MFP increase of 2.75% or whatever it was.

Non-salary costs are increasing as well... but part of that MFP increase I'm sure went to salary increases.
Posted by RIPMachoMan
Member since Jun 2011
5943 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 2:14 pm to
The major reform push I recall Jindal making was to use public funding for the private school voucher program. Wasn't that struck down? Honestly can't recall how it fleshed out in the end
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24799 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 2:21 pm to
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While Louisiana fared better than some states, per-student spending between FY08 and FY14 dropped more than 4 percent when adjusted for inflation. That’s equivalent to $212 less in state support for each student. The finding is hardly surprising, as state policymakers have failed to fully fund the K-12 Minimum Foundation Program (MFP) for five straight years. While overall funding has gone up due to enrollment growth, per-student funding has been frozen since 2008, resulting in $560 less in basic support for each student. Frozen funding means larger class sizes, fewer tutoring opportunities and cancelled after school programs.


How many times do you need to hear that money will not solve the issue of low performing schools like you think it will?

Every one of those kids has a cell phone with internet access. Most have tablets or computers at home. They could become an expert in anything they want.

They lack discipline, drive, and care. Money won't solve that.

Like I said, I made good grades in AP classes all through high school. Not saying I'm some genius, but I didn't have any of the tech these kids have today.

All I had at home were Childcraft books, encyclopedias and workbooks. I had parents that cared. I did have the desire to try and work hard to make good grades. Something lacking in most students today.

Again, MONEY WON'T FIX THAT.

We spend tons more $$$ per student in the Wash DC school system. Why are they the lowest performing schools?

This post was edited on 10/4/19 at 2:30 pm
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14506 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 2:36 pm to
I read it when it first came out in 2013.

If you build in an inflation factor to call something a "cut" you are a liberal. That's not a real cut.
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 2:37 pm to
I forgot, what's his wife do?
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