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re: Jack Smith obtained personal info on 639K Republicans- including red MAGA hat buyers

Posted on 10/14/26 at 8:10 pm to
Posted by Veritas
Member since Feb 2005
12098 posts
Posted on 10/14/26 at 8:10 pm to
Yes
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
179048 posts
Posted on 10/14/26 at 8:11 pm to
Good thing I bought mine in 2016
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
485771 posts
Posted on 10/14/26 at 8:11 pm to
quote:

Yes

Why do you think that?

Nothing about this seems illegal at all.
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
26860 posts
Posted on 10/14/26 at 8:11 pm to
Ok. Why would a special counsel prosecutor be looking at campaign contributions when he was supposed to be investigationg Trump for 'trying to overthrow an election"? Did he think Trump.was in cahoots with the small time donors,

Even worse, why would Smith need to acquire the Trump merchandise catalog?

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Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41897 posts
Posted on 10/14/26 at 8:14 pm to
Karma is not going to be nice to Jack Smith.
Posted by uggabugga
Maryland
Member since Aug 2024
6258 posts
Posted on 10/14/26 at 8:16 pm to
Only applies if it's above $200.

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You can check publicly available FEC records yourself. Campaign committees must report itemized individual contributions once a person’s aggregate total from that source exceeds $200 in an election cycle. Those reports list name, address, occupation/employer, date, amount, and running total. Sub-$200 totals are only reported in aggregate (no personal details).Official way (FEC website)

Go to fec.gov.

Use the search tools:

Individual contributions search: Look under “Campaign finance data” ? “Individual contributions” or use the direct search at fec.gov/data/receipts/individual-contributions/.

Enter your name (try variations: full name, last name only, common misspellings).

Filter by committee if desired (e.g., search for “Donald J. Trump for President 2024” or related joint fundraising committees).

You can also search by zip code or state to narrow results.

Review the results for matching address/occupation details. Reports are filed periodically and become public shortly after filing.

The FEC also offers bulk data downloads and an API if you want more advanced searching.


Posted by Veritas
Member since Feb 2005
12098 posts
Posted on 10/14/26 at 8:16 pm to
Yes, it is generally illegal for the government to collect, pull, or centralize citizen data—such as voter rolls or personal records—for political or unauthorized purposes, as federal courts have repeatedly ruled against these actions.

A purchase is a personal record if it documents an individual's private consumer or financial affairs.

Yes, it is generally illegal for the federal government to pull personal financial data for purely political purposes. Under U.S. law, federal authorities must have a legitimate, authorized law enforcement or regulatory purpose—such as investigating a crime, enforcing tax codes, or national security—to request individual financial records. Gathering data to target political opponents, profile voters, or surveil citizens based on their political beliefs violates federal privacy laws, internal agency regulations, and constitutional principles.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
93617 posts
Posted on 10/14/26 at 8:16 pm to
Huh maybe after my first political donation I got the IRS up my arse for a reason?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
485771 posts
Posted on 10/14/26 at 8:17 pm to
quote:

for political or unauthorized purposes,

The Smith investigation was neither of these things.

Your AI response needed some refinement with a few more prompts.

Posted by Veritas
Member since Feb 2005
12098 posts
Posted on 10/14/26 at 8:19 pm to
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The Smith investigation was neither of these things.


I agree. You are a terrible lawyer. The post is about people that bought MAGA hats.
Posted by WBKelso
Member since Jul 2026
119 posts
Posted on 10/14/26 at 8:19 pm to
However that may be true to an extent, you don't see the difference between some silk screen company buying basic info to potential customers, and a political hatchet man acquiring info, however he did, to potentially use against Americans?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
485771 posts
Posted on 10/14/26 at 8:20 pm to
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I agree.

Then you should refine your AI response, as my original reply told you to.

That AI response requires either of the things you just agreed didn't exist. It has no application to the discussion, at that point.
Posted by Veritas
Member since Feb 2005
12098 posts
Posted on 10/14/26 at 8:20 pm to
quote:

However that may be true to an extent, you don't see the difference between some silk screen company buying basic info to potential customers, and a political hatchet man acquiring info, however he did, to potentially use against Americans?


That sir would be illegal
Posted by Veritas
Member since Feb 2005
12098 posts
Posted on 10/14/26 at 8:22 pm to
You might want to re-read, your comprehension is off with this one.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
485771 posts
Posted on 10/14/26 at 8:24 pm to
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Yes, it is generally illegal for the government to collect, pull, or centralize citizen data—such as voter rolls or personal records—for political or unauthorized purposes, as federal courts have repeatedly ruled against these actions.


If the collection was not for political or unauthorized purchases, then this collection isn't illegal.

quote:

Yes, it is generally illegal for the federal government to pull personal financial data for purely political purposes.


I would guess you put a form of "political purposes" in your initial prompt.


quote:

Under U.S. law, federal authorities must have a legitimate, authorized law enforcement or regulatory purpose

The criminal investigation fulfils this requirement.

quote:

—such as investigating a crime


This is what Smith was doing.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
173081 posts
Posted on 10/14/26 at 8:27 pm to
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This post was edited on 10/14/26 at 9:48 pm
Posted by Veritas
Member since Feb 2005
12098 posts
Posted on 10/14/26 at 8:27 pm to
quote:

If the collection was not for political or unauthorized purchases, then this collection isn't illegal.


After all the years of watching politics what do you think this was? Stop playing dumb, it's unbecomming of you.

quote:

The criminal investigation fulfils this requirement.

quote:
—such as investigating a crime


This is what Smith was doing.


So why did he collect data on 600K+ republicans?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
485771 posts
Posted on 10/14/26 at 8:29 pm to
quote:

After all the years of watching politics what do you think this was?

A criminal investigation.

I guess you're rescinding your agreement from earlier now?

quote:

So why did he collect data on 600K+ republicans?

Grasserly didn't release all the information to answer this question.

He's being deceptive in his releases and has been for some time. He went off the rails with dishonestly framing the cell phone collection efforts
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
26620 posts
Posted on 10/14/26 at 8:30 pm to
Definitely not lawfare - signed SFPLC
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
26860 posts
Posted on 10/14/26 at 8:32 pm to
Smith is gong to have a hard time explaining wht a contribution in 2005 or a donation of $1 was collecting evidence to prove Trump.overthrew an election in 2020.

They are trying to get him with Hatch Act. Ww will see if anything sticks
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