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re: Jack Smith, Andrew Weissmann and Lisa Monaco’s Novel Theory – US Code 793 to get Trump
Posted on 6/8/23 at 5:49 am to ChexMix
Posted on 6/8/23 at 5:49 am to ChexMix
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Ronbot shills wont touch this thread
If Ron and his bots don’t defend and support Trump on this issue, they are complicit with the democrats.
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Posted on 6/8/23 at 5:56 am to Jack Bauers HnK
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If Ron and his bots don’t defend and support Trump on this issue, they are complicit with the democrats.
Most "ronbots" are in total agreement that what Dems and the 3-digit agencies are doing is absolute bullshite. The narrative that Desantis supporters are never-trumpers is mostly made up.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 5:57 am to GumboPot
Dems are begging for a civil war on every front; political, cultural, spiritual, racial and sexual.
This post was edited on 6/8/23 at 6:03 am
Posted on 6/8/23 at 6:14 am to GumboPot
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DOJ: Trump violated USC 793 in his discussion and/or handling of documents. Trump Lawyers: What documents? DOJ: We can’t say, and we won’t tell you.
At some point, a judge will have to challenge this. I just don’t know how you get to an unbiased judge.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 6:43 am to GumboPot
Conservative Treehouse?????? Do better
Posted on 6/8/23 at 6:46 am to GumboPot
The more corrupt the state the more numerous its laws.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 7:05 am to GumboPot
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Novel Theory – US Code 793
Nothing novel about it. It’s been litigated for decades.
It was also referenced in the MAL search warrant so nothing new in this matter.
This post was edited on 6/8/23 at 7:07 am
Posted on 6/8/23 at 7:39 am to KiwiHead
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Conservative Treehouse?????? Do better
You do better. Challenge the substance. Attacking the messenger says more about your weakness than the message.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 7:42 am to Decatur
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Nothing novel about it. It’s been litigated for decades.
What president, former or otherwise has been charged with US Code 793?
Posted on 6/8/23 at 7:57 am to GumboPot
None. I’m not aware of any fact set that would support this being done in the past.
That doesn’t mean Sec 793 is novel or doesn’t have well developed case law for retention prosecutions.
I really don’t know if Trump will be charged with this but I guess we’ll find out before too long.
That doesn’t mean Sec 793 is novel or doesn’t have well developed case law for retention prosecutions.
I really don’t know if Trump will be charged with this but I guess we’ll find out before too long.
This post was edited on 6/8/23 at 8:08 am
Posted on 6/8/23 at 8:08 am to Decatur
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That doesn’t mean Sec 783 is novel
783 become law in the '40s. So yes, it is not novel from that perspective.
However it is novel from the perspective that declassified documents by the president are subsequently designated as "national security" documents by the DOJNSD then the president who declassified the documents is charged with a national security 783 violation. The 11 Circuit gave deference to the DOJNSD in the MAL documents case to make that classification on 09/21/2022. LINK
Posted on 6/8/23 at 8:11 am to GumboPot
We do not live in a remotely free country or anything resembling a just society. And, yes, for many people in history that was the case for many years. But instead of correcting those injustices and deprivations of liberty, we’ve just written them large.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 8:20 am to BobBoucher
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DOJ: Trump violated USC 793 in his discussion and/or handling of documents. Trump Lawyers: What documents? DOJ: We can’t say, and we won’t tell you.
At some point, a judge will have to challenge this. I just don’t know how you get to an unbiased judge.
That's not going to happen. They get to pick whatever charges they want, make up whatever meaning they want for the claimed violation, change it as necessary to not drop the charges each time they are proven wrong, and pick whoever/wherever they want to proceed with the above. It's like playing a game where you get to change the rules as you go and decide/change at any point, what the winning outcome is, and you get to continuously do it so it works perfectly against your opponent.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 8:24 am to GumboPot
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then the president who declassified the documents
I don’t see factual support for this yet. I’m aware of the efforts to declassify the Crossfire Hurricane binder but I’m not sure that’s all we’re dealing with here.
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The 11 Circuit gave deference to the DOJNSD in the MAL documents case to make that classification on 09/21/2022
Courts historically give some deference to agency classification determinations but whether the information at issue is National Defense Information is an issue of fact for trial.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 8:34 am to GumboPot
Trump won’t go to jail. They will keep indicting him until he’s elected. Just watch
Posted on 6/8/23 at 8:48 am to Steadyhands
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That's not going to happen. They get to pick whatever charges they want, make up whatever meaning they want for the claimed violation, change it as necessary to not drop the charges each time they are proven wrong, and pick whoever/wherever they want to proceed with the above. It's like playing a game where you get to change the rules as you go and decide/change at any point, what the winning outcome is, and you get to continuously do it so it works perfectly against your opponent.
That's why they call it lawfare.
We are witnessing the federal government with almost unlimited resources conduct lawfare against a private citizen. Almost anyone else besides Trump would be crushed by the process in the first week.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 8:51 am to GumboPot
Our government has been weaponized against political opposition.
Meanwhile Joe Biden pumps money to his pal Zellensky, as he counts his five million dollar bribe.
It's official. We have a career criminal sitting in the Oval Office.
Trump 2024 - Drain the Swamp
Meanwhile Joe Biden pumps money to his pal Zellensky, as he counts his five million dollar bribe.
It's official. We have a career criminal sitting in the Oval Office.
Trump 2024 - Drain the Swamp
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