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re: J6 prisoner speaks out. ‘I have been held 1000 days without trial.’

Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:19 am to
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:19 am to
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Are you suggesting that the extreme leftist DA Jason Williams and his merry band are purposely keeping this info from their clients? Why?


I’m not sure how often Jason Williams meets with defendants. Public defenders are overwhelmed. I’m not saying they are purposely not doing extra work to ensure a speedy trial, but I imagine they don’t have the capacity to do it.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:19 am to
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I am as calm as a Bhuddist monk in lotus, bitch
Good. I'd hate to see you worked up then.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:21 am to
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I’m not sure how often Jason Williams meets with defendants
Only when he has a big shot at publicity, probably.

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Public defenders are overwhelmed. I’m not saying they are purposely not doing extra work to ensure a speedy trial, but I imagine they don’t have the capacity to do it
This doesn't explain why they wouldn't file. File, get it over. But, again, it's likely an effective tactic by the defense.
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:21 am to
Jake you are right about the Q things being conspiracies, but you are wrong about the J6 prisoners not having their human rights (and constitutional right) violated.

Our founding fathers would be livid about their treatment.

Eta : maybe I misread - I'm a mess today and need to stop piddling on TD and work some
This post was edited on 10/20/23 at 11:23 am
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:24 am to
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What are you talking about? I listed conspiracies that were BS and this is your response?

yeah yeah

and your position that you know more than a published expert in a field in which you apparently have ZERO clues is your standard....

387-0 applies, moron
This post was edited on 10/20/23 at 11:35 am
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61378 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:24 am to
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Only when he has a big shot at publicity, probably.
that’s my assumption, too.

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This doesn't explain why they wouldn't file. File, get it over.
they probably don’t have the time to do it. Their caseloads are so large that they may not even realize someone has been detained for so long. It could possibly be a defense strategy but I can’t assume that’s the case for everyone. I’d need to see some corroboration from an actual defense attorney or defendant.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
39623 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:26 am to
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Other than YOUR biases, what makes him unreliable?


The irony of this is that you people question and/or outright deny anything and everything that doesn’t fit your narrative

But you gobble up the stuff that makes you feel good without a moment’s pause.

If you don’t think the details he gave are a little dubious, then I question your awareness on many, many things. Has nothing to do with bias.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:27 am to
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cwill
ah the oopsy daisy defensy
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79933 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:27 am to
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Jake you were right about the Q things being conspiracies, but you are wrong about the J6 prisoners not having their human rights (and constitutional right) violated.
I didn't say they didn't have rights violated. I said I didn't believe everything this guy was saying. I also took note that he has delayed his trial in order to get a matter heard by the Supreme Court. That's it. I've also suggested that some in this thread are always emotional and gullible when reading things like this.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:32 am to
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suggested that some in this thread are always emotional and gullible
'suggested'?

You didnt suggest it LIAR

You declared yourself superior in a field in which I have been published and worked in for years

and then in your perpetual tone deaf nature - implied I needed 'therapy'

as belligerent as any belligerent I ever see on this board.

You are undoubtedly a tone deaf piece of schidt..

'suggested'... lol
Posted by Rule 303
Missourah
Member since Sep 2023
63 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:34 am to
Trump said they were peaceful protesters. Are they antifa or peaceful protesters? Pick one.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79933 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:38 am to
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and your position that you know more than a published expert in a field in which you apparently have clue is your standard....
Post the link.

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387-0 applies, moron
I can already see the signs "Trump/JFK Jr. '24." It will be a glorious 3rd term since theorists say he's actually running the government in exile.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476634 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:39 am to
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Then you said.


I don't understand why it's so difficult for you to understand if he believes one charge is illegal (and, apparently, unwinnable at trial), his choice to fight that and delay the trial is some ulterior motive of the government.

He can choose to fight this charge via a speedier trial or fighting this charge via motion. What other option are you presenting? I've directly asked you this before point blank and you have offered nothing.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:42 am to
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Jake88

what is this masturbatory joke you have running?
Posted by Rule 303
Missourah
Member since Sep 2023
63 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:42 am to
Incredible that video evidence can be biased based on who is holding the phone recording the video. Jesus that's so stupid.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79933 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:43 am to
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It could possibly be a defense strategy but I can’t assume that’s the case for everyone
But you seem to be assuming that the defendents are unaware of this option.
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 Their caseloads are so large that they may not even realize someone has been detained for so long
I bieve they have status hearings. When a continuance is granted, a date for a return to court is set right then. It could be months in the future but it us set. The defender knows how long things drag because they are the ones checking their calender at that moment.


Ultimately, what is your solution?
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:43 am to
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and your position that you know more than a published expert in a field in which you apparently have clue is your standard....
Post the link.

bet me I am not published in that field

bet me
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476634 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:44 am to
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well, he's specifically contesting corruption


Newsweek

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He is asking the justices to hear his appeal of one of the 11 charges he was indicted on: obstruction of an official proceeding


Just the News
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defendant Edward Jacob Lang is asking the Supreme Court to hear his challenge against one of the 11 charges he was indicted on – obstruction of an official proceeding


I can post more. Where are you getting "corruption" from?

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Show us a video of Lang obstructing an official proceeding.

Being part of the riot is enough, per the legal theory of the prosecution.

Law and Crime article on it

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Prosecutors have argued that while the enumerated offenses in the first subsection are specifically aimed at actions like destroying evidence, the second subsection, starting with the word “otherwise,” is meant to essentially be a “catchall” to address any other action, “corruptly” taken, to block “any official proceeding.”

Defendants have argued that the statute is confined to actions such as destroying potentially incriminating documents, as consulting firm Arthur Anderson was found to have done on behalf of Enron as the then-crumbling energy company was starting to crumble, leading to what was then the largest corporate bankruptcy in the world.

During Monday’s appellate hearing before a three-judge panel of the U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia, Assistant U.S. Attorney James Pearce urged the judges to uphold the findings of at least 18 district court judges.

“The word ‘otherwise’ indicates that the provision encompasses conduct other than [document or evidence tampering],” Pearce argued. He was almost immediately cut off by Circuit Judge Gregory G. Katsas.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39853 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:44 am to
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fricking hate this country
When did you start doing that?
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79933 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:45 am to
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You declared yourself superior in a field in which I have been published and worked in for years
You've got the quote on this? I declared I'm superior in a field of photography? Or did I say forensic experts can be biased for a side?

Again, where is the link for this published study apparently you authored?
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