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re: I've flipped. I'm Pro-Abortion af nowadays
Posted on 8/15/26 at 9:39 am to FooManChoo
Posted on 8/15/26 at 9:39 am to FooManChoo
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You need to stop this. You keep calling me a liar without supporting the claim that I’m a liar.
You are a liar and a deceiver, and I’ve proven this dozens of times. I don’t need to write a book every time I call you a liar. I’ve written plenty of “books” on that subject about you already and they’re all preserved on this site.
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 9:40 am to Meauxjeaux
It’s always been about freedom of choice for me.
Posted on 8/15/26 at 9:45 am to redfish99
Freedom of choice in general? Or do you mean “pro-choice” in the specific realm of abortion?
Posted on 8/15/26 at 10:33 am to Squirrelmeister
quote:I’ve written books in response to your lies, especially ones you repeat over and over again, like the Davidic sperm theory. That’s why it is important to actually argue your point rather than make bare accusations, like you do.
You are a liar and a deceiver, and I’ve proven this dozens of times. I don’t need to write a book every time I call you a liar. I’ve written plenty of “books” on that subject about you already and they’re all preserved on this site.
If you are saying that you don’t believe you need to justify your positions any longer, you can certainly do that, but don’t expect anyone to take you seriously. Anyone can call anyone else a liar and deceiver without justification.
Posted on 8/15/26 at 10:47 am to Meauxjeaux
38.4 million abortions between 1973 and 2000. People say I’m full of shite, but one can not ignore legalized abortion as having possibly cost Al Gore the 2000 election. Of course, that doesn’t translate into 38.4 million votes, but that no doubt affected the allocation of electoral votes between red and blue states.
Posted on 8/15/26 at 1:50 pm to FooManChoo
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I’ve written books in response to your lies, especially ones you repeat over and over again, like the Davidic sperm theory.
That’s not a lie, you fricking idiot. It’s a plausible hypothesis. You have your head so far up your arse. For it to be a lie, I would have to assert the Davidic sperm concept as a fact, at the same time either knowing it to be false or having insufficient evidence to know if it is true.
Your assertions on the other hand are lies. You don’t know if there are unverifiable supernatural deities and neither do I, but for you to assert something as true without having any basis for such is a lie.
You can say you believe, or you have faith or whatever, but you can’t say you know there is a deity without it being a lie.
And that’s what you’re good at. Because it’s all you do - spouting baseless falsehoods as if you know they are facts. It’s shameful.
Posted on 8/15/26 at 4:33 pm to Squirrelmeister
quote:Seriously? You spent months or even years saying ancient Christians believed that theory as the starting point of the religion, using the AOI as evidence, only to finally realize recently that you totally misunderstood that one text. Instead of admitting that the whole theory is bunk, you continued to double-down on Paul teaching it, even though it's clear that he doesn't. You were using the AOI as your primary support to say Paul taught it, and then used Paul as your primary support for the AOI. Now that the AOI is out of the question, you only have Paul, and you still refuse to acknowledge that he wasn't teaching that nonsense. You can't let it go because you have to have an alternative to the truth. You believe a lie, and no matter how many times I show you the truth, you reject it.
That’s not a lie, you fricking idiot. It’s a plausible hypothesis. You have your head so far up your arse. For it to be a lie, I would have to assert the Davidic sperm concept as a fact, at the same time either knowing it to be false or having insufficient evidence to know if it is true.
quote:You don't understand what "baseless" means. When I say you are making "baseless" assertions, I'm saying you are making claims without any supporting evidence whatsoever; you're just saying something is true and expecting me and others to accept that on face value without argument.
Your assertions on the other hand are lies. You don’t know if there are unverifiable supernatural deities and neither do I, but for you to assert something as true without having any basis for such is a lie.
You can say you believe, or you have faith or whatever, but you can’t say you know there is a deity without it being a lie.
And that’s what you’re good at. Because it’s all you do - spouting baseless falsehoods as if you know they are facts. It’s shameful.
When I make a claim, I am providing support for it. There are countless proofs and evidences for the existence of the Christian God and the support for the Bible and its claims, and yet you call them all "baseless" because you don't accept them as "fact" (truth, really). You don't get that you don't have to accept a claim as true for it to still have warrant. You don't know what "baseless" means. It's why I keep criticizing your use of philosophy and logic (or your non-use of them), because you don't understand the categories being discussed, and you misuse them in our discussions all the time.
Posted on 8/15/26 at 9:19 pm to FooManChoo
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When I make a claim, I am providing support for it. There are countless proofs and evidences for the existence of the Christian God and the support for the Bible
fricking idiot
Posted on 8/15/26 at 11:59 pm to Squirrelmeister
quote:Because I don't want to waste any more time writing out argumentation with someone whose position is so groundless that he has to resort to name-calling, here's a quick list of 20 evidences pulled from AI for you to look at.quote:fricking idiot
When I make a claim, I am providing support for it. There are countless proofs and evidences for the existence of the Christian God and the support for the Bible
You don't have to agree with them, but they are proofs and evidences all the same. There are tons out there, but here are some common ones.
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Philosophical/Classical Arguments
1. Cosmological Argument (contingency of the universe demands a necessary First Cause)
2. Kalam Cosmological Argument (universe began to exist, therefore has a cause)
3. Teleological Argument (design/fine-tuning of the universe)
4. Moral Argument (objective moral law requires a moral Lawgiver)
5. Ontological Argument (Anselm's argument from the concept of a maximally great being)
6. Transcendental Argument (TAG) — the laws of logic, morality, and induction presuppose God's existence
7. Argument from Consciousness/Mind
8. Argument from Reason (naturalism cannot account for reliable rational faculties)
Scientific/Natural Evidences
9. Fine-tuning of physical constants (cosmological constant, gravitational force, etc.)
10. Irreducible complexity in biological systems
11. Origin of information in DNA
12. Origin of life problem (abiogenesis remains unsolved)
13. Big Bang cosmology (universe had a beginning)
Biblical/Textual Evidences
14. Fulfilled messianic prophecy (Isaiah 53, Psalm 22, Daniel 9, etc.)
15. Manuscript reliability and textual transmission (thousands of extant manuscripts)
16. Archaeological corroboration (e.g., Hittites, Pilate Stone, Tel Dan Stele)
17. Internal consistency and unity of Scripture across 66 books, multiple authors, 1500+ years
18. The resurrection of Christ — minimal facts (empty tomb, post-mortem appearances, transformation of the apostles, birth of the church)
Historical/Existential Evidences
19. The historical survival and providential preservation of the church despite persecution (a mark of God's covenant faithfulness)
20. Changed lives — the ongoing testimony of regeneration and the internal witness of the Holy Spirit, which the Westminster Divines regarded as the surest ground of persuasion, since "our full persuasion and assurance of the infallible truth... is from the inward work of the Holy Spirit"
Posted on 8/16/26 at 12:27 am to Powerman
He was speaking tongue in cheek, tell me this Powerbottom, how many babies can he save IF HE WISHES IT REALLY HARD!? He's saying it's completely out of his control so why worry himself to death.
Posted on 8/17/26 at 7:16 am to FooManChoo
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here's a quick list of 20 evidences pulled from AI for you to look at.
Foo the potato-brain copies from a chatbot.
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You don't have to agree with them, but they are proofs and evidences all the same
Not one is a proof. Not one is evidence of anything real or truthful about reality, nature, or the cosmos. It’s all bullshite, and you have never offered up any “evidences” (
you fricking idiot) to anything that comports with reality. frick you Foo. You don’t have to agree with me on anything, but I do expect others to not be lying sacks of dog shite. If ever you acknowledge that…
1. I sincerely do not believe in the existence of your deity.
2. I have provided meaningful answers for the standards of subjective morality, even if you don’t like them.
Then we cannot have a meaningful conversation on here.
Posted on 8/17/26 at 7:22 am to Meauxjeaux
I am for any issue, including banning abortions, simply to piss off liberal women. (I’d be against it anyway)
I love to see the aging libs fems thrashing, screaming and ululating.
I love to see the aging libs fems thrashing, screaming and ululating.
Posted on 8/17/26 at 8:07 am to Meauxjeaux
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It just took some deeper thinking to realize this is really a better stance.
Deeper thinking?
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No pro-life people are aborting their kids... just the libs and undesirables.
The founder of planned parenthood originated the concept of letting undesirables take their own kids out.
He wasn’t a deep thinker. He recognized the obvious.
Posted on 8/17/26 at 3:43 pm to Squirrelmeister
quote:Yep. I cited my source, like everyone should do when they directly quote something. I normally write my own argumentation, but I figured it would be a waste of time in this instance.
Foo the potato-brain copies from a chatbot.
I reviewed the text and put my support behind it before I posted it.
quote:I think you need to look up what a proof is.
Not one is a proof
There is a difference between proof and persuasion. You are conflating those two things.
quote:I've realized that a long time ago. Our "conversations" are nothing more than me showing the rest of this board how ridiculous you are in your irrational atheism.
...we cannot have a meaningful conversation on here.
Posted on 8/17/26 at 6:28 pm to FooManChoo
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I normally write my own argumentation, but I figured it would be a waste of time in this instance.
Damn that’s actually a really good judgement. Great job and I’m serious.
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I think you need to look up what a proof is.
You are incorrect.
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There is a difference between proof and persuasion. You are conflating those two things.
I am not conflating the two. You, however, seem to be acknowledging I am not persuaded, and therefore are admitting I legitimately and genuinely do not believe in things that I am not persuaded actually exist. So Bravo. I’m glad you admitted to it.
But your chatbot list are all arguments. Fallacious arguments. Not evidence, and not proof. And they aren’t even arguments for your deity. The Kalam argument doesn’t argue for Yahweh Sabaoth, the war deity of the Shasu/Midianite/Edomite peoples that was adopted by the Israelites and merged with El and Baal that you call “God”. It argues for “a” supernatural creator or creators, not Yahweh. So it’s fallacious to say the universe was created by a god and therefore we know that it was created by Yahweh. It’s also fallacious on its second premise that the universe began to exist. Modern science does not suggest this - no scientists and definitely no big bang cosmologists argue or state that the universe began to exist.
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I've realized that a long time ago. Our "conversations" are nothing more than me showing the rest of this board how ridiculous you are in your irrational atheism.
Whether you think it is rational or not, there is absolutely no evidence for the existence of your deity or anyone’s deities, and plenty of evidence clearly showing the ancient books on which the characters of the deities are based are purely mythological and not based on facts or reality about history or our natural world or cosmos.
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9Then Moses and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel went up, 10and they saw the God of Israel. There was under his feet as it were a pavement of sapphire stone, like the very heaven for clearness. 11And he did not lay his hand on the chief men of the people of Israel; they beheld God, and ate and drank.
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26And above the firmament over their heads there was the likeness of a throne, in appearance like sapphire; and seated above the likeness of a throne was a likeness with a human appearance.
You can’t hide from the firmament forever, Foo. And you can’t reconcile that plenty of Old Testament dudes saw Yahweh face to face and yet John the apostle tells us no one has ever seen God.
Posted on 8/17/26 at 6:43 pm to StrongOffer
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Anyone with this stance is not a Christian.
Some of the worst people I know are in Church every Sunday.
Posted on 8/17/26 at 6:46 pm to Willie Stroker
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The founder of planned parenthood originated the concept of letting undesirables take their own kids out.
Our jails and prisons are full of people who should have been aborted but weren’t. Same for our welfare/entitlement state that seems never ending. We meaning productive taxpayers are stuck with all of them because of the anti abortion fanatics that for some bizarre reasons want people to keep having children that they do not want.
Posted on 8/17/26 at 9:00 pm to Meauxjeaux
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I’m saying, I can’t fight every battle all the time, so letting this one go allows me to focus love and energy on more productive things.
Wow. Please tell me what's more productive than a human life that your love will focus on.
Posted on 8/17/26 at 9:49 pm to Meauxjeaux
fricking right Man half these psycho fricks kill all their babies and the other half wont have kids so we should just let nature take its course and let em all die off eventually
Posted on 8/17/26 at 10:36 pm to ronricks
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Some of the worst people I know are in Church every Sunday.
Check off the anecdotal evidence box!
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