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re: I’ve been struggling lately with what freedom really means...
Posted on 2/3/21 at 8:36 am to PrimeTime Money
Posted on 2/3/21 at 8:36 am to PrimeTime Money
You’re free to the extent where it’s convenient for the government
the stolen Election for example - you were free to vote for whoever you wanted to, but the government will step in and change your vote if they deem it necessary.
the stolen Election for example - you were free to vote for whoever you wanted to, but the government will step in and change your vote if they deem it necessary.
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Posted on 2/3/21 at 8:37 am to SlidellCajun
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I have always seen the 2nd amendment as the ultimate expression of freedom
How is the 2nd amendment the ultimate expression of freedom when that right can be taken away with a felony conviction not even involving a firearm or any violent action.
Posted on 2/3/21 at 8:38 am to PrimeTime Money
Freedom just means degree of movement. Choice is a movement.
Your rights end where mine begin is an old statement. We recognized rights as coming from God, but since atheist nihilist hedonists run the country, they believe rights come from them. So they limit degree of movement and choice when it suits them.
Your rights end where mine begin is an old statement. We recognized rights as coming from God, but since atheist nihilist hedonists run the country, they believe rights come from them. So they limit degree of movement and choice when it suits them.
Posted on 2/3/21 at 9:00 am to PrimeTime Money
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What are your thoughts on this kind of private tyranny?
The past year has shown just how much of an oligarchy the US really is.
Posted on 2/3/21 at 9:14 am to PrimeTime Money
Kris Kristopherson said it best,
“Freedom is just another word for nothin left to lose”.
Our rights have been slowly eroded in this nation for decades.
Recently, I’m of the opinion that true freedom is an illusion.
“Freedom is just another word for nothin left to lose”.
Our rights have been slowly eroded in this nation for decades.
Recently, I’m of the opinion that true freedom is an illusion.
Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:24 am to PrimeTime Money
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I used to think freedom from government was what freedom was all about. I never even thought large corporations and groups of private citizens could do what they’ve been doing lately to silence and harass people.
So what is freedom? If corporations and private groups can “cancel” you, is that freedom even if it’s not the government doing it? If private citizens are free to do what they want, are they free to oppress others? It’s a paradox.
What are your thoughts on this kind of private tyranny?
It is a bit of a paradox. No one has the right to oppress, but then what is true oppression versus perceived oppression? I bring that up because what we are seeing is oppression being doled out by those who believe they are being oppressed, however they think they are just fighting back. If you are oppressed, can you be the oppressor as well?
It gets crazy but that perception is a big part of the problem and it derives directly from the victimization mentality that's swept across the country.
I don't know what the answer is other than to buy a few dozen acres out in the middle of nowhere and be the fricking Ingalls family.
Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:27 am to PrimeTime Money
We’ve confused relative economic success with freedom. We’re not really a stalwart example of capitalism anymore.
So we’re just a “bread and circuses” kleptocracy. Sitting around watching the body politic cool.
So we’re just a “bread and circuses” kleptocracy. Sitting around watching the body politic cool.
Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:29 am to Bard
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If you are oppressed, can you be the oppressor as well?
In the Marxist narrative, it is imperative for the oppressed (as defined by Marxism) to oppress the oppressors. One of the recent “New Discourses” podcasts goes over this in depth with the reading of neo-Marxist Herbert Marcuse’s essay on “Repressive Tolerance.”
Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:31 am to PrimeTime Money
It costs a buck o five.
Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:32 am to Wtodd
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Living the way you want within the law
What if new 'laws' were created that took your guns away and said you can only eat meat on Saturdays and Sundays?
Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:33 am to PrimeTime Money
Freedom is the absence of coercion.
Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:35 am to PrimeTime Money
Isaiah Berlin would be some good reading for you. Also Locke.
Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:35 am to mmonro3
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How is the 2nd amendment the ultimate expression of freedom when that right can be taken away with a felony conviction not even involving a firearm or any violent action.
The law abiding majority decided that those criminals who've committed felonies do not deserve the same rights that society enjoys.
Freedom to commit crime isn't what a free society anywhere can tolerate.
Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:41 am to PrimeTime Money
IMO, you cannot define Freedom until it is defined who can determine consequences for actions?
Who gets to determine consequences? Government? The Majority? The Mobs? God?
Freedom is only what you do within those boundaries.
Who gets to determine consequences? Government? The Majority? The Mobs? God?
Freedom is only what you do within those boundaries.
Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:45 am to PrimeTime Money
Careful. Next thing you'll be saying the corporations are oppressing us with high prices and the rent is too damn high.
Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:47 am to baybeefeetz
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Next thing you'll be saying the corporations are oppressing us with high prices
So?
Gotcha games over “free markets” is an argument from the 80s.
Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:56 am to the808bass
Would love to hear you expand upon the extent to which you want government to dictate to people what they should do with their money and their business.
Posted on 2/3/21 at 11:11 am to PrimeTime Money
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So what is freedom? If corporations and private groups can “cancel” you, is that freedom even if it’s not the government doing it?
But it is the government doing it. Tech has used the levers of government all along the way to get as big as they are and they are in bed with the democrats now. The government has had far too much power for too long, and what you’re experiencing now is the fruit from a tree that was plantes in the early 20th century. Don’t think it’s going to get better, either. As technology continues to progress exponentially, it will be increasingly used against your freedoms. The government is becoming omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent.
Posted on 2/3/21 at 11:12 am to PrimeTime Money
Because he is a nothing person
Posted on 2/3/21 at 11:12 am to theunknownknight
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It means freedom Anything else is a lie We aren't in a free country AT ALL
You aren’t a conservative. You are an anarchist.
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