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re: It's time to take another look at the "autopen" pardons granted by someone not named Biden

Posted on 6/23/26 at 1:36 pm to
Posted by CC
Galveztown
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 6/23/26 at 1:36 pm to
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I'd be more worried about the man who now holds the pen.
Since the precedent has been set, Trump should be authorizing the autopen to pardon everyone he knows for whatever the frick they may have done, or may do, from 1789 to the day he chooses to leave office.
Posted by RohanGonzales
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Member since Apr 2024
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Posted on 6/23/26 at 1:38 pm to
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Since the precedent has been set, Trump should be authorizing the autopen to pardon everyone he knows for whatever the frick they may have done, or may do, from 1789 to the day he chooses to leave office.


Can he cover HOA violations? I don't have any but I will cut loose if he can!
Posted by NytroBud
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/23/26 at 2:06 pm to
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Since the precedent has been set, Trump should be authorizing the autopen to pardon everyone he knows for whatever the frick they may have done, or may do, from 1789 to the day he chooses to leave office.


If he doesnt he's a fool...he should issue a preemptive pardon for his entire family going back to the day they were born, except that retard of a niece and for every member that has ever worked for him in any capacity during either of his administrations
Posted by Timeoday
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Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 6/23/26 at 2:56 pm to
It is as if Hollywood got with DC and figured out who to cast as the villain.
Posted by BuckI
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Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 6/23/26 at 6:54 pm to
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Trump should be authorizing the autopen to pardon everyone he knows for whatever the frick they may have done
That would be a lot of pardons.
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
10027 posts
Posted on 6/27/26 at 11:01 am to
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
9088 posts
Posted on 6/27/26 at 11:26 am to
You and your people are insufferable and a threat to democracy.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
97751 posts
Posted on 6/27/26 at 11:28 am to
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The magical thinking of right wingers. Just use the word “autopen” and you have unlimited power that is not shared with any previous administration.


You’re cool with randoms granting pardons?
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
50718 posts
Posted on 6/27/26 at 11:30 am to
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Republicanism is psychosis.


Actually, you have it backwards (as usual). It's brain-dead Leftists like you who are "mental" as hell. In a perfect world, anybody who voted for the senile old crook Brandon, as well as the idiot Kamala later, should have their voting rights revoked.
Posted by LawTalkingGuy
Member since Mar 2025
266 posts
Posted on 6/27/26 at 12:32 pm to
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Can you even imagine when it is proved Biden did not win the 2020 election the clusterfrig that occurs regarding the autopen pardons?


Biden was our President no matter what anyone is able to prove regarding the 2020 election.

Electoral votes were signed off by all 50 governors and sent to Congress. Congress approved the electoral votes, and Biden was sworn in as President.

Proving election fraud is not at all related to the pardons.
Posted by ManBearSharkReb
Member since Dec 2018
6768 posts
Posted on 6/27/26 at 1:43 pm to
The Presentment Clause (Article I, Section 7): Dictates that the President must sign an approved bill for it to become a law, or veto it and return it to Congress.

Couldn’t find anywhere in the constitution where someone or something has authority to sign legally binding documents on behalf of the president. Odd.

I did find that the basis being used for the “delegation of signatures” is a simple DOJ opinion written in 2005 (imagine that. President bush abdicating the powers of the President) and if challenged it probably wouldn’t hold up in court.

Absolutely challenge his horse shite autopen pardons. And subpoena everyone with access to the auto pen.
Posted by LawTalkingGuy
Member since Mar 2025
266 posts
Posted on 6/27/26 at 1:49 pm to
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The Presentment Clause (Article I, Section 7): Dictates that the President must sign an approved bill for it to become a law, or veto it and return it to Congress.


Now show us where it says pardons must be signed.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
174812 posts
Posted on 6/27/26 at 1:53 pm to
I think we should do away with presidential pardons completely

It's an inversion of justice

Trump has pardoned a bunch of fraudsters that should absolutely serve their time and pay restitution

Every president in my lifetime has some dubious pardons. It's a stupid practice.
Posted by ManBearSharkReb
Member since Dec 2018
6768 posts
Posted on 6/27/26 at 1:54 pm to
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Has literally nothing to do with a lab in China (not under any control of Fauci) accidentally releasing a virus


Aiding and abetting mass murder.

quote:

accidentally


Yes the wuhan lab which was a military research lab for biological weapons coincidentally and accidentally released a virus to shut down the world during a time when Hong Kong was unraveling due to protests and a trade war with Trump was crushing their economy.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
479602 posts
Posted on 6/27/26 at 1:55 pm to
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Aiding and abetting mass murder.

No

Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
20365 posts
Posted on 6/27/26 at 1:55 pm to
Hate to be that guy but all Biden has to do is say he authorized them and there’s nothing that can be done. I’m pretty sure that the only person that can be harmed by even a forged signature is the signer.
This post was edited on 6/27/26 at 1:56 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
479602 posts
Posted on 6/27/26 at 1:55 pm to
I think Biden already has.
Posted by ManBearSharkReb
Member since Dec 2018
6768 posts
Posted on 6/27/26 at 2:01 pm to
Fauci circumvented federal law to fund the lab that released the virus that killed millions of people.

This isn’t a case that ends up in traffic court in bumfrick Louisiana.

This is a case that goes before military tribunals similar to the Nuremberg trials. The impact is international. And ad hoc military tribunals have put many men to death for far lesser crimes throughout world history.

You’re limited in your cognitive capacity and can’t think beyond your small insignificant world where your legal practice makes zero impact on the world outside of your shanty town.
Posted by ManBearSharkReb
Member since Dec 2018
6768 posts
Posted on 6/27/26 at 2:05 pm to
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Now show us where it says pardons must be signed.


Show us where it says verbal contracts are enforceable.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
479602 posts
Posted on 6/27/26 at 2:07 pm to
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Fauci circumvented federal law to fund the lab that released the virus that killed millions of people.

Assuming this is 100% true, it's nowhere near "aiding and abetting" a murder

And it's nothing like the example given earlier that I mocked

quote:

This is a case that goes before military tribunals


Fauci is a civilian. He can't be brought in front of military tribunals. Martial Law wasn't declared at the time of Covid, and there was no declared war.

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