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It took the US 3 weeks to capture Baghdad

Posted on 2/26/22 at 6:52 am
Posted by Stidham8
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Posted on 2/26/22 at 6:52 am
Against a force that wasn’t backed with Western Weapons.

But now the Western Propaganda outlets are calling it a “dramatic setback” that Kyiv hasn’t fallen in 48 hours.

Interesting the spin you get from only listening to one side.
This post was edited on 2/26/22 at 6:56 am
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/26/22 at 6:54 am to
How many days (weeks) of air attacks prior….
Posted by BohicaBob
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 2/26/22 at 6:54 am to
Pretty sure it took longer than 6 days
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/26/22 at 6:54 am to
I don't think the US was using the same super-aggro approach that Russia is, though. Our invasion of Iraq was patient and measured. Russia is potentially over-extending itself for a quick, decisive victory.
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 2/26/22 at 6:56 am to
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Pretty sure it took longer than 6 days


You are correct. Invasion begin March 20th. Baghdad did not fall until April 9th.
This post was edited on 2/26/22 at 6:57 am
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
8819 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 6:57 am to
Russia is going easy - they aren’t anything like they were vs the Chechens.

quote:

ASB News / MILITARY??@ASBMilitary·1hThis is true. Russia still hasn’t used any of their modern weapons — like they do in Syria. They’re still going very soft.Quote TweetAbdur Rafay ??????@AbdurGamesYT · 1hReplying to @kekcryptokek and @ASBMilitaryNot really surprising. Putin wanted minimal civilian casualties to ensure popular support. Even though he lacks it. All Russia have used till this stage are old. Some even Soviet aged. Iskanders are probably latest. Had Putin wanted, he could've levelled Ukraine. Like Chechniya.
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
4893 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 6:59 am to
There's some weird shite going on. It seems like theater for some globalist bank reset of the world economy. If Europe/NATO gets dragged into this conflict, and sanctions start flying left and right all over the place; then it's almost certainly an OP to establish digital ID and currency.
Posted by Nguyener
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 2/26/22 at 7:03 am to
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There's some weird shite going on. It seems like theater


It’s either something complicated like a propaganda OP or something as simple as this:

Putin is not some kind of glorious white hat fighting the global cabal for altruistic reasons. Nor is he a pawn in some globalist scheme.

He’s a power hungry leader and an opportunistic old school thinker.

Europe hasn’t been this week in a century and America is finally pathetic and stretched thin enough that he can invade and there’s nothing we can do about it so he pouncing on the opportunity and China is watching with great interest.

The Ukraine has a massive role in rare and precious Mineral trade as well as a playground for globalist money changers. If Putin can get his hands on all of that he can strengthen himself and position himself better on the world stage.

Whether or not he’s working in unison with China is yet to be seen. But I seriously doubt it.

America has been the large force lurking in the dark keeping the power hungry lunatics of the world at bay since WWII and we get less powerful each year.

Europe has been in and out of territorial conflicts pretty much constantly for centuries. We’ve been spoiled with relative peace since the 50s in that area. And we’re so used to it war seems foreign and weird when it fact it’s normal over there.

Our run into the Middle East in 2001 and our handling of conflict since then has showed us each time as less and less capable and more and more stretched thin.

And with the economy faultering and European powers floundering coupled with our apathetic and corrupt government these power hungry men see an opportunity.

It’s as simple as that if you want boil it down.
This post was edited on 2/26/22 at 7:05 am
Posted by Tigerfan1274
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 2/26/22 at 7:04 am to
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Russia is going easy - they aren’t anything like they were vs the Chechens.


Agree. Something is different about this offensive. IMO, he wants to minimize casualties and infrastructure damage as much as possible. I think he believes he can replace the Ukrainian government with one of his own and things will settle down in terms of the world’s reaction to this. As far as sanctions are concerned, that is. He doesn’t care about protests and hashtags.
This post was edited on 2/26/22 at 7:05 am
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 2/26/22 at 7:05 am to
If you level it like Chechnya then you end up with a possible insurgent fight. You destroy everyone’s home and job and they might resist you.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
422651 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 7:07 am to
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Whether or not he’s working in unison with China is yet to be seen. But I seriously doubt it.

If he is, it will end like the Russian-German alliance during WW2.

Russia and China may one day create a legitimate hegemony in that region, but it won't be with Putin/Xi in power. They can only coexist for bursts but will eventually tire of the other's attempt to control the situation.
Posted by Tigerfan1274
Member since May 2019
3143 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 7:15 am to
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Nguyener


Good post. Germany, the second largest economy in Europe, has a military in disarray. Their top military official said yesterday that their military is “standing bare” and “limited in combat” readiness. All of the EU has rushed the clean energy transition and is even more dependent on Russian oil and gas than ever before. Security doesn’t always come in the form military. Energy is security as well and some nations in the EU have let both slip, opening the door for Putin to make his move in the Ukraine.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/26/22 at 7:32 am to
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The Ukraine has a massive role in rare and precious Mineral trade as well as a playground for globalist money changers. If Putin can get his hands on all of that he can strengthen himself and position himself better on the world stage.


LOL

It's not close to what he's gonna lose in the long run with sanctions and multi nationals pulling the plug on Moscow right and left.

The ONLY piece of leverage he has against the West is his energy ties to western Europe (specifically Germany)and I don't think their opposition to kicking Moscow out of SWIFT can hold out much longer...not with the images of the invasion we're seeing on a daily basis.
Posted by Yeahright
On a big sphere out there.
Member since Sep 2018
1929 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 7:41 am to
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Against a force that wasn’t backed with Western Weapons.

But now the Western Propaganda outlets are calling it a “dramatic setback” that Kyiv hasn’t fallen in 48 hours.

Interesting the spin you get from only listening to one side.

Horrible point you are "trying" to make. Putin don't care how many of his soldiers die so he will do whatever it takes to get quick results so he can say, "hey, look at me." At least Bush acted like he cared about our troops and did it slowly yet methodically.
This post was edited on 2/26/22 at 7:43 am
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 7:49 am to
And, I learned from watching the interview with the blonde government lady this morning that Russia owns the internet and power infrastructure in Ukraine.
No wonder they are being careful and going slow, they aren't about to go blowing their own stuff up. They want as much in tact as possible when this is all over so they don't have to completely rebuild their own stuff in their new territory.

ETA: as an added bonus, the people aren't as likely to rebel if you don't destroy their country
This post was edited on 2/26/22 at 7:54 am
Posted by 2014Tigers
Shreveport
Member since Aug 2014
1064 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 7:51 am to
Russia thinks overwhelming should defeat the fighting spirits of their enemies when they have clearly measured the enemies will to survive and keep their homeland
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Member since Aug 2021
25066 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 7:52 am to
I just remember the startling images of Baghdad from 30 years ago , the tracer fire & bombs exploding, when CNN was still a news organization. Then I’ll look at the virtually empty CCTV feeds in Ukraine and wonder what is this talk about war? Where is everybody?
This post was edited on 2/26/22 at 11:00 am
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64611 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 7:54 am to
This Russian offensive looks much like all Russian offensives going back to WWI, they use their massive numerical advantage like a sledgehammer, taking massive casualties in the process, in the belief their superior numbers will eventually begin to tell.

Odds are they’re right.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
11813 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 8:13 am to
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Agree. Something is different about this offensive. IMO, he wants to minimize casualties and infrastructure damage as much as possible. I think he believes he can replace the Ukrainian government with one of his own and things will settle down in terms of the world’s reaction to this. As far as sanctions are concerned, that is. He doesn’t care about protests and hashtags.


Had a thought. Is he really trying to take the whole country or is he securing key areas and knocking out ukraines command and control so he can secure the two separatist regions and have enough leverage that Ukraine sues for peace and let’s the separatist regions join Russia. But Ukraine stays Ukraine. With part of the peace no NATO membership….

But our media/western governments are making it out as a full scale war…. Hard to trust any news or video these days…..
Posted by Mfdtiger
Deatsville, Alabama
Member since Oct 2010
730 posts
Posted on 2/26/22 at 8:15 am to
That’s a ridiculous comparison. That was across the desert on the other side of the planet. How long would it take us to capture Tijuana?
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