re: It is shocking to hear a congressman show primary allegiance to another country.

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Polite Spanish? Knowing how to ask for a restroom doesn't qualify you to speak on this topic.

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OK. And every single translation website is incorrect? You are literally the only person who knows your version of Spanish.

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She put out a statement. If the reported translation was wrong, why not say so?

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When she called the misinformation "an attack," you viewed that as her confirming that what someone posted on social media was true?

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She chose to conclude in Spanish because she is Guatemalan before she is American.

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She was speaking in Mexico. Are you claiming it is unusual for someone to speak Spanish in Mexico City? Do all Americans know that they should not speak Spanish in Mexico or they will be viewed as somehow being loyal to Guatemala or some other Spanish-speaking country over America?

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because she is Guatemalan before she is American. It's the only translation that makes sense given the statement.

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You watched a 7 second clip. You claim you know the context in which she was speaking. Do you honestly believe that a 7 second clip provides the context you need to read between the lines enough to justify disregarding her actual words for some bunk translation to the Spnaish spoken in Jortsamala?

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You are telling a Spanish speaker he’s wrong when you can only ask for a beer in Spanish. That’s such a 4chubbies position to take.

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It's wiiiiiild. Not one outlet has retracted the story or offered a correction. The Congresswoman hasn't even denied that's what she said. She's choosing to angle this as an attack on "her heritage" but she hasn't denied the translation.

I used to think other posters were too hard on 4cubbies and some of the comments directed at her were distasteful. I mean, I still think they are distasteful...but look at this chick gringa-splainin' Spanish to a Boricua.

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OK. And every single translation website is incorrect? You are literally the only person who knows your version of Spanish.

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Why would she say I'm going to conclude in Spanish because I'm a proud Guatemalan but I am a proud American first? In what universe does that make sense? You know she was speaking English before she flipped to Spanish for the final statement, right?

"I am an American first so I'm going to wrap this up in Spanish." Yeah, makes total sense..

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When she called the misinformation "an attack," you viewed that as her confirming that what someone posted on social media was true?

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She's angling this as an attack on her heritage. She's not denying her words. If the reported translation is off, wouldn't that be a logical place to start? Good grief.

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She was speaking in Mexico. Are you claiming it is unusual for someone to speak Spanish in Mexico City? Do all Americans know that they should not speak Spanish in Mexico or they will be viewed as somehow being loyal to Guatemala or some other Spanish-speaking country over America?

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No one cares that she spoke Spanish at a Panamerican conference. It's her actual statement--the one you keep trying to translate on an app--that's earned her criticism.

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You watched a 7 second clip. You claim you know the context in which she was speaking. Do you honestly believe that a 7 second clip provides the context you need to read between the lines enough to justify disregarding her actual words for some bunk translation to the Spnaish spoken in Jortsamala?

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Her actual words are what you keep denying. You are a hack using translation apps. You don't know the language and you are taking ridiculous positions because you think a translation app is going to give you the correct answer when you type in a clause in lieu of a full statement.

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Why would she say I'm going to conclude in Spanish because I'm a proud Guatemalan but I am a proud American first? Because it's true? Is she not an American?

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I'll say a few words in Spanish because I'm proudly Guatamalan, although I'm an American first.

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Her actual words are what you keep denying. You are a hack using translation apps. You don't know the language and you are taking ridiculous positions because you think a translation app is going to give you the correct answer when you type in a clause in lieu of a full statement.

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And you're claiming that only you are able to translate this 7 second clip. You are the only person who possesses the context to translate this singular sentence accurately. No computer or program ever created is able to translate this sentence accurately. What a burden you are forced to bear.

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I like how you throw in a conjunction she never used.

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I didn't literally translate that sentence. You asked why would someone say that and I responded in a way that answers your question.

You win. I'm not spending my day repeating the same facts that you are hell-bent on rejecting. The Jortsamala translation stands.

We know that people would reject any translation that doesn't agree with their hatred of democrats and everyone not born in America that isn't Elon Musk or Melania Trump. That's exactly what you're doing now.

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Once again, if her Spanish sucks, she can just clarify what she meant. She won't do that. It's telling.

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Once again, you're asking her to simply repeat the same sentence she already said and we all heard which translates to "... first I am an American."

We are suspending reality for the sake of your ego, though.

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if her Spanish sucks, she can just clarify what she meant.

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I am not a native Spanish speaker, but I have spoken the language since my teens ...almost 50 years. While Jorts' interpretation makes more sense in context than Cub's, it is difficult to say definitively what this woman was trying to say, for several reasons.

First, Spanish has only about 10% the vocabulary of English, so any given single word in Spanish can often have multiple potential translations into English, with very different connotations for a native English speaker. Here, she uses "primera" in a way that just makes no sense to me. It basically means "first," but if she were saying something like "I am first and foremost (primarily) a Guatemalan woman, rather than an American," I would expect her to have said "soy Guatemalateca antes de que soy Ameicana" and that is not what she said.

Second, Latin American Spanish has FAR more regional variation than one finds in American English. Any given word or phrase can easily (and often does) have a VERY different meaning in Havana or Panama than in San Luis Potosi or in Ciudad Juarez. Her phrasing might make perfect sense in Guatemala, but be confusing to a Texan who speaks a dialect from Northern Mexico or a Floridian who speaks a Cubano dialect.

Cubs keeps supplementing or ignoring her actual words. Adding "although" or ignoring "que.". Neither approach is good translation protocol.

Again, Jorts is probably correct in his interpretation, but it is difficult to be certain. With its more-limited vocabulary, Spanish is just much more context-sensitive than English and more prone to subjective interpretation.

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I don't know another way to convey "before" without using the word antes.

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But that is not the question. It is not whether there is more than one Spanish word for "before." The issue is that (based upon context) "antes" can mean other things in English.

For instance, the English word "primarily" might be properly translated as the phrases "ante todo" or "antes de todo" in Spanish. To my knowledge, there is no single Spanish word for the concept of "primarily," so you basically say "before all" in the sense that an English speaker might say "above all."

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Dejaste que un vagabundo te follara y te robara la bicicleta

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In your view, does this sort of gratuitous insult add something productive to the conversation?

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It's wiiiiiild. Not one outlet has retracted the story or offered a correction. The Congresswoman hasn't even denied that's what she said. She's choosing to angle this as an attack on "her heritage" but she hasn't denied the translation.

I used to think other posters were too hard on 4cubbies and some of the comments directed at her were distasteful. I mean, I still think they are distasteful...but look at this chick gringa-splainin' Spanish to a Boricua.

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There are several narcissists on this site that get a lot of attention and clutter solid topics with lies and false narratives. This person is one of the worst, and I do not understand why no one just ignores them.

You are feeding their narcissism by replying to their lies. This is how these people get fulfillment in their daily lives.

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