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re: It has to secretly piss off every member of the left to know the right has been right
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:49 am to TDsngumbo
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:49 am to TDsngumbo
Bro... the left doesn't think they are wrong... The left just thinks that the right stands in the way. That everything that happens is the rights fault and that the sooner they eliminate the right they can start their utopia
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:50 am to TDsngumbo
Can we just agree neither side contributed to a solution in Afghanistan and now we're here.
This is what pulling out of a quagmire looks like.
This is what pulling out of a quagmire looks like.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:52 am to oklahogjr
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Can we just agree neither side contributed to a solution in Afghanistan and now we're here.
No.
We can agree that you can get fricked, though.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:54 am to TigerOnTheMountain
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We can agree that you can get fricked, though.
Boy, you're fricking a lot of people today
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:56 am to DangerousWafer
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Anyone attempting to boil down a two decade long issue into a period of 8 months is being a bit disingenuous.
I don't think anyone is maintaining that we should not have left Afghanistan. However, Biden left with no plan whatsoever. That's the problem.
As to the war in general. It was a necessary war and occupation. It allowed us to take away the last safe haven for Al Quaeda and systematically destroy them. The violent Jihad, always present in Islam, surged around the 1980's. It culminated with the twin towers coming down about two decades ago. It was always going to fade eventually. We occupied Afghanistan long enough to wait it out. The war in Afghanistan was effective.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:57 am to TDsngumbo
Not even the left was wrong about Biden. They tried their best to swift boat him in the primaries and put their hopes and dreams behind someone with better "qualifications" like dark skin, or a penchant for anal sex. Unfortunately for them, Biden was the only electable candidate to come out of that train wreck.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:58 am to DangerousWafer
Biden completely botched the withdrawal. That’s what all this is about dumbass
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:59 am to Paddyshack
quote:Why? If I had family/friends like you describe, I'd be rubbing their nose in the the shite they helped create. I love my dog, buy he doesn't get ignored when he shits in the house.
I have several friends and family members that were hardcore Biden voters. It is taking every ounce of restraint I have not to be an absolute dick.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 8:00 am to TDsngumbo
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It has to secretly piss off every member of the left to know the right has been right
I don’t know. Most of them knew they were wrong from the start, that’s why they have to be aggressively draconian in their tactics.
That’s why the need to follow rules for radicals. You don’t need to at if you know you are right.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 8:01 am to TDsngumbo
Ideology trumps everything else for Marxists. The POTUS being incompetent doesn’t matter. Massive inflation and unemployment don’t matter. When we get to bread lines and heating fuel shortages those won’t matter either.
Marxism by hook or by crook.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 8:02 am to xxTIMMYxx
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Biden completely botched the withdrawal. That’s what all this is about dumbass
But that's the thing.
I think any withdrawal would have ended up in a similar situation.
Biden's mistake was withdrawing in the first place. I don't think we should have withdrawn nor do I think a deal negotiated with the Taliban should have been honored.
I blame Trump for the 2020 Doha Agreement (and the fact that the Taliban violated it so many times without any retribution from his administration) and I blame Biden for honoring an agreement with the Taliban.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 8:02 am to TDsngumbo
Left has no sense of right or wrong. To them, as long as they have power, it doesn't matter if the other side is always correct.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 8:03 am to DangerousWafer
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But that's the thing.
I think any withdrawal would have ended up in a similar situation.
Biden's mistake was withdrawing in the first place. I don't think we should have withdrawn nor do I think a deal negotiated with the Taliban should have been honored.
I blame Trump for the 2020 Doha Agreement (and the fact that the Taliban violated it so many times without any retribution from his administration) and I blame Biden for honoring an agreement with the Taliban.
But here's the thing.
Biden violated the agreement.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 8:06 am to Penrod
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I don't think anyone is maintaining that we should not have left Afghanistan. However, Biden left with no plan whatsoever. That's the problem.
I am.
I think withdrawing is a mistake. Biden should have never withdrawn, which is what I think his mistake was. I think any withdrawal would have ended up with a mess like this. The Afghan army would have fallen because the only reason they were there was because of American troops backing them. With America withdrawing, the Afghan army would easily back down because nobody wants to risk their life for a cause they can't believe in.
Trump brokered a deal with the Taliban and I blame him for that. I blame Biden for agreeing to honor it. It's a mistake and I think Biden did so for political reasons rather than what is right.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 8:08 am to DangerousWafer
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I think
Not really, just react
Posted on 8/16/21 at 8:08 am to pankReb
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Biden violated the agreement.
I actually agree with him on that. The problem in my opinion is that he eventually honored the agreement. It should have been violated from the beginning - no US administration should be brokering deals with terrorists.
Withdrawing is the biggest political mistake in the past decade. While Trump trapped Biden into withdrawing, I think Biden took the road of political cowardice instead of what is the right decision.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 8:09 am to LSU90
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Not really, just react
Good argument/contribution... not really a response that makes me think you understand things.
This post was edited on 8/16/21 at 8:10 am
Posted on 8/16/21 at 8:10 am to TDsngumbo
quote:dont flatter yourself dude, youre never right about shite, the ONLY thing this has done is show once again that the maga believes in nothing, you float from thing to another and simply pretend the past never happened. i pulled this from trumps page two hours ago. its magically gone now
They’ll never show it but you just know they are fuming knowing every Trump supporter was right about Biden.
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"Getting out of Afghanistan is a wonderful and positive thing to do. I planned to withdraw on May 1st..."
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"I made early withdraw possible by already pulling much of our billions of dollars of equipment out and, more importantly, reducing our military presence to less than 2,000 troops from the 16,000 level that was there..."
Posted on 8/16/21 at 8:12 am to TDsngumbo
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Every
Single
Time
They’ll never show it but you just know they are fuming knowing every Trump supporter was right about Biden.
They don't think anything bad is going on, they think the economy is coming back strong and we are dealing with things correctly. They don't have a problem with this.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 8:24 am to greygoose
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Why? If I had family/friends like you describe, I'd be rubbing their nose in the the shite they helped create. I love my dog, buy he doesn't get ignored when he shits in the house.
Im trying to reconcile my human emotions with what the Bible says I should do. I think for now, the answer is say nothing. Im not sure I will need to say anything as this continues to unfold.
This post was edited on 8/16/21 at 8:25 am
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