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It bothers me that neither of Trump's 2 SCOTUS picks thus far were really conservative.

Posted on 9/20/20 at 2:41 am
Posted by AnyonebutSteelers
Austin, Texas
Member since Aug 2020
711 posts
Posted on 9/20/20 at 2:41 am
Have a look at this chart.

LINK

Trump replaced a stalwart conservative, Scalia, with.......Gorsuch, who wasn't anywhere as conservative as Scalia.

Trump replaced a slightly liberal centrist, Kennedy, with............Kavanaugh, who is only a bit conservative.

I don't know much about Amy Barrett, the frontrunner to replace Ginsburg, but chances are she'll only be slightly more conservative than Kavanaugh.

In other words, Trump isn't, and perhaps won't be, tilting the Supreme Court that far right at all. He hasn't nominated anyone as staunchly conservative as Clarence Thomas. These are once-in-a-generation opportunities and we can't be nominating judges who are only slightly conservative.

Obama had no such issues - he nominated Sotomayor, who is by far the most liberal of all the current Supreme Court justices.
This post was edited on 9/20/20 at 2:57 am
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
37736 posts
Posted on 9/20/20 at 2:43 am to
Jeez pal enjoy the victories without being as greedy as Jeff Bezos, shite son
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16430 posts
Posted on 9/20/20 at 2:48 am to
For some reason, Republicans seem to bat .500 with their SCOTUS picks. Dems bat a 1.000.



Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30219 posts
Posted on 9/20/20 at 3:14 am to
quote:

Jeez pal enjoy the victories without being as greedy as Jeff Bezos, shite son



You’re not seeing what he’s trying to say or acting like you cannot see.


John Roberts was a victory for bush.















Do you get it now?
Posted by RemouladeSawce
Uranus
Member since Sep 2008
13936 posts
Posted on 9/20/20 at 3:27 am to
These charts are pretty subjective and oversimplified to be all that useful. Liberal vs. Conservative is an increasingly useless dichotomy when describing judges anyway.

Even if Trump wanted another Thomas, he hasn't exactly had the margin to pull that off.

Hyper partisans on the courts isn't good for the country in the long run, regardless of what the Dems do.
This post was edited on 9/20/20 at 3:33 am
Posted by Texas Yarddog
Member since Apr 2018
2613 posts
Posted on 9/20/20 at 3:31 am to
Both are textualists.

I personally don't give shite about "conservative" judges. Folow the constitution as written or GTFO.

Both are great appointments. We don't need activist judges (liberal OR consevatives) in the highest court of the Country.
Posted by Nono
Member since Nov 2017
4820 posts
Posted on 9/20/20 at 3:32 am to
You’ll enjoy Sandy Vajayjay
Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
Member since May 2010
27104 posts
Posted on 9/20/20 at 3:37 am to
It would probably shock you to learn that neither is President Trump.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81639 posts
Posted on 9/20/20 at 3:38 am to
Better than Bush’s appointments
Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
8510 posts
Posted on 9/20/20 at 3:43 am to
quote:

Both are textualists.

I personally don't give shite about "conservative" judges. Folow the constitution as written or GTFO.

Both are great appointments. We don't need activist judges (liberal OR consevatives) in the highest court of the Country.



This is correct.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29166 posts
Posted on 9/20/20 at 4:35 am to
Why should thst bother you unless you’re wanting them to legislate from the bench?
Posted by Texas Yarddog
Member since Apr 2018
2613 posts
Posted on 9/20/20 at 4:45 am to
Exactly. SCOTUS should be completely non-partisan. Unfortunately political hacks get their panties in a wad if judges aren't conventional conservatives or liberals.

The only problem I see is that the progressives will always place a political activist (like Ginsberg) over a constitutionalist or textualist.

The fact that Trump HASN'T put a die hard conservative in the seat shows how moderate he actually is (politically speaking).

This also shows how far left the political spectrum has shifted when a pragmatist (Trump) is labeled "nazi" or "dictator" or "extremist".
Posted by colbyjackcheese
S'port
Member since Aug 2018
580 posts
Posted on 9/20/20 at 4:45 am to
Here you loud and clear. I'm all for adhering to the constitution but his 2 supreme court appointments haven't voted as conservative as I thought they would. Here's to hoping they overturn Roe v. Wade. That shite eats me up everytime I think about our current abortion rights.
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
9419 posts
Posted on 9/20/20 at 4:49 am to
The Supreme Court isn't about Conservative versus Liberal. It's about upholding the constitution as written.

Both his picks are considered "textualists." They aren't there to advocate conservative views. Just interpret the constitution.

They should do fine job in that.
Posted by Armymann50
Playing with my
Member since Sep 2011
17047 posts
Posted on 9/20/20 at 5:08 am to
Just imagine what billery's would have been.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68212 posts
Posted on 9/20/20 at 5:48 am to
That chart is about three years old. So the locations of those new justices is worthless. In fact, was Kavanagh even on the Court yet?

"Conservative" judges can rule two ways. The can rule conservatively in a political manner on a case or they can rule conservatively and stick to only how the constitution reads. The latter can result in them supporting the same outcome as liberals in some cases.

Leftist judges can only rule in one way, a leftist political manner.

That explains why liberal presidents bat 1.000 and republican presidents far less.
This post was edited on 9/20/20 at 7:11 am
Posted by TitleistProV1X
Member since Nov 2015
3511 posts
Posted on 9/20/20 at 5:58 am to
That’s actually have Supreme Court nominees are supposed to be. If you agree with every one of their rulings that’s a problem.
Posted by Folsom
Folsom
Member since Mar 2006
3305 posts
Posted on 9/20/20 at 6:24 am to
Reagan did the same thing. Sandra Day O’Connor. I think his advisers have no clue what a real conservative is or they’re just rinos choosing rinos.
Posted by BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
Member since May 2019
7039 posts
Posted on 9/20/20 at 6:30 am to
Justices are supposed to be constitutional. Scalia himself said that he followed the law even when it's not how he would have voted in his personal life, but he interpreted the law the way it was intended.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34729 posts
Posted on 9/20/20 at 6:38 am to
I really like Kavanaugh
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