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re: Israel being attacked

Posted on 10/7/23 at 6:32 pm to
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 10/7/23 at 6:32 pm to
Yeah I saw it I knew it wasn’t an IDF solider because of the dreads then later it came out they overran a rave going on in the vincity.
Posted by Old Money
LSU
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/7/23 at 6:34 pm to
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Did it show her as an IDF soldier as was claimed earlier?


I see nothing saying IDF. Just a hippy travel chick.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103883 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 6:36 pm to
I wonder if the Burning Man dysentery assholes will still claim they got off worse than these ravers who got killed.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 10/7/23 at 6:43 pm to
Some thoughts from Wokal

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Wokal Distance
@wokal_distance
Hamas doesn't have a 20th century liberal mindset. So the model for what Hamas is doing is not Dutch/French resistance during WW2, or the American Civil War

Look at the women Hamas kidnaped; this is a revenge driven Bronze Age style raid of enemy territory for women and weapons


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Taliban fighters who got border of peace and desk jobs (pic 1) are asking to Iran to let them conquer Jerusalem (pic 2).

Why? because peace is not the goal here.

This is, literally, a Bronze Age mindset in which conquering the enemy and seeking glory is the goal.


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This is an attempt at a slave taking, woman stealing, city burning, "sacking" of Israel according to a Bronze Age moral code in which conquering your enemies and taking territory is considered to be good.

That is what is happening here. Trying to think about this as though....


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Hamas has a modern mindset in which ending the war and creating peace is the larger goal is to totally misunderstand the worldview of groups like Isis, Hamas, Hezbollah, and so on.

Peace is not the goal here: conquering is the goal. The goal is battle, glory, victory.

so....


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Trying to offer them peace isn't going to work. They don't want peace, they want to taste glory. Hamas sees the Jewish people as an enemy to be conquered, not an equal to make peace with.

Until you understand this, you cannot understand what is happening.


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The word Hamas is an Arabic word that, roughly translated, means something like "Strength, bravery, and zeal." That is what Hamas is about, and those qualities (which fit in perfectly with a Bronze Age conquering mindset) are what guides the aims and goals of Hamas.


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As you can imagine, for Hamas militants (who are dedicated to Strength, bravery, and zeal and who are seeking glory and victory) making peace with their enemies, dividing the land fairly and settling down into domestic life is not something that they find appealing.


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Hamas is motivated by unconstrained passion and powerful emotions: hate, anger, resentment, passion, glory, zeal, and so fourth...all of which is guided by a Bronze Age ethics of honor, revenge, and conquering.

You cannot entice such people into peace by offers of fairness.


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Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103883 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 6:45 pm to
Those are the individuals believed to have been kidnapped?

Scorched earth. I’m talking shite that would have made John Wayne squirm in The Searchers.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
18734 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 6:49 pm to
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Keep an eye on the skirmishes between Hezbollah and Israel.


This can’t be understated. I saw a video earlier that showed motorcycles on the move toward the border - claimed to be Hezbollah.

They are tied to Lebanons government tho. They aren’t just a rogue group like Hamas.

Hezbollah engages, and Labanon might get wiped off the map.

If I’m Isreal - I make it clear that Isreal will NOT entertain war on 2 fronts and will use its full arsenal to ensure it doesn’t have to.
This post was edited on 10/7/23 at 7:00 pm
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103883 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 6:52 pm to
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Hezbollah engages, and Labanon might get wiped off the map.


Should have happened 40 years ago IMHO.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 10/7/23 at 7:05 pm to
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OSINTdefender
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Following the Meeting tonight of the Israeli National Security Cabinet it was decided that the IDF will soon begin an Operation that will bring forth the Destruction of the Military and Governmental Capability of Hamas in the Gaza Strip.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
18734 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 7:10 pm to
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IDF will soon begin an Operation that will bring forth the Destruction of the Military and Governmental Capability of Hamas in the Gaza Strip.


They have to. Quite frankly they should offer to bus all Palestinians out to a neighboring border. Ask the international community to ship them out as refugees.

Those that remain are considered enemies of Isreal. Make Gaza Isreal. End this crap.
This post was edited on 10/7/23 at 7:22 pm
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
18580 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 7:12 pm to
Kinda wondering if Israel allowed it to happen, so they could have a legit excuse to rain hell down and wipe the board clean. I mean, they are consistently under attack by Hamas and the Palestinians...and most of the middle east. They will never have peace as long as the groups that want them destroyed are still around.

Every time Israel is under attack, western countries wag their fingers and limit the retaliation. Granted, there are bloodthirsty groups that hate us Americans with an undying passion, and want to kill us.. but most of us don't have to worry about them, because there's an ocean separating us. Israel doesn't have that luxury of not worrying about the people who want them destroyed.
This post was edited on 10/7/23 at 7:16 pm
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
33462 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 7:15 pm to
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They have to.


If they don't or they try to use half measures in retaliation then it will become infinitely worse
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 10/7/23 at 7:19 pm to
Has Israel started blowing shite up yet?
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 7:20 pm to
Yeah ive been busy all day, need to read through the thread and see what has happened since I went to bed early this morning.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
18734 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 7:24 pm to
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Has Israel started blowing shite up yet?


Yeah - within hours several targets in Gaza were struck. Including a high rise that fell.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
33462 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 7:24 pm to
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Western Lensman
@WesternLensman

On September 19, Biden spokesman John Kirby justified the $6B for Iran by ensuring there would be consequences should the Iranian regime support terror:

“If [Iran] decides to increase their support for terrorist activity…we’re going to be ready to hold them accountable, we’re going to be ready to deter that activity."

Three weeks later, Iran has done exactly that.

Now what, Biden administration?


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Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
15959 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 7:29 pm to
It didn't fall, they bombed the frick out of it.

One of my reservations about emigration to Israel is that it's hard to get permits to own/carry guns. You have to have been an IDF combat arms vet to have a chance, and it's seemingly irrelevant that I've have a permit from one state or another for 20 years.

Thanks, Obama and Biden, for sending Iran billions of dollars which flow to Gaza for weapons. The ultimate goal is that Israel doesn't exist. Die in a fire for giving Iran money.
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
14107 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 7:30 pm to
Bomb first, pray later!
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
14107 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 7:33 pm to
Israel giving civilians instructions on how to protect themselves.

Hamas butchers killing women, children, elderly and desecrating dead bodies.

Hmmmm, let's see, whose side shall we be on?!?! Which side should be completely eradicated?!?!
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
72335 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 7:33 pm to
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Yeah ive been busy all day, need to read through the thread and see what has happened since I went to bed early this morning.


Is it me, or has the news spigot come to a conspicous stop since the gush of news breaks from the initial attack?
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63532 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 7:35 pm to
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Hmmmm, let's see, whose side shall we be on?!?!


I’d prefer to stay out if it.
This post was edited on 10/7/23 at 7:36 pm
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