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re: Isn't a 30-06 round armor piercing?

Posted on 9/11/25 at 10:53 pm to
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 9/11/25 at 10:53 pm to
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Heavy armor or plates are rifle rated and most will stop 30.06. I seriously doubt that he was wearing plates. They're pretty bulky.


i have rifle plates for my vest

they will stop up to a 7.62mm/.308
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 9/11/25 at 10:55 pm to
Could you wear them under a normal sized white t shirt and spur a serious debate about whether or not you were carrying plates?
Posted by Trevaylin
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Posted on 9/11/25 at 10:55 pm to
have you ever done a live fire test to make sure it will stop.
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
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Posted on 9/11/25 at 10:55 pm to


Exactly. This is so stupid.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 9/11/25 at 10:57 pm to
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Could you wear them under a normal sized white t shirt and spur a serious debate about whether or not you were carrying plates?


hell no! i wear mine over clothes. very bulky. and heavy
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 9/11/25 at 11:04 pm to


I just felt like some first hand opinion was warranted around here.
Posted by captdalton
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Posted on 9/11/25 at 11:05 pm to
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Could you wear them under a normal sized white t shirt and spur a serious debate about whether or not you were carrying plates?


Not and have your pecs and nipple visibly print against your T-shirt.

Posted by biglego
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Posted on 9/11/25 at 11:30 pm to
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Could you wear them under a normal sized white t shirt and spur a serious debate about whether or not you were carrying plates?


And do the plates have cut outs for nipples?
Posted by AUJACK
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 3:54 am to
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Armor piercing ammunition uses bullets that have steel or tungsten penetrators in them. FMJ is just a jacketed lead bullet.


I stand corrected. Like I stated, don't get the bullet loaders talking.

I would be surprised if a non-NATO was FMJ or armor piercing. 30-06 is not a NATO round. Most of the commie block sold ammo (cheap) after the wall fell was 7.62 steel core and corrosive. Also came with SKS and AK's cheap. You could also buy a brick of .22 federal hollow points for $8.88 at Walmarks.

I have not bought ammo, except shot gun shells, since the Clinton era. Still have plenty.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 6:22 am to
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Not and have your pecs and nipple visibly print against your T-shirt.


Just a reminder that this wasn’t actually posted in this thread.

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What exactly do you think a civilian wearing a plate looks like? They look exactly like a civilian that isn’t wearing a plate. High quality armor tailored for a specific individual’s body will not be distinguishable under normal circumstances. For obvious reasons. This ain’t Iraq. Everything about the hit says armor. One of the dudes close friends says he was wearing armor. It’s really not even debatable at this point
Posted by Squirrelmeister
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 7:22 am to
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I have shot a 30-06, Ruger American with Leopold var 111 scope forever. The effective range is really 150 yards

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A .308 which I have in a AR model shoots much flatter

Bro what are you smoking?
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 7:27 am to
Thanks for all the comments. Learned quite a bit which is what I was hoping for. Good discussion
Posted by OccamsStubble
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 7:33 am to
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Isn't a 30-06 round armor piercing?


It’s a lot like a nine millimeter it will blow out your lungs just stick to something safe like a shotgun

Joe R Biden
Posted by Squirrelmeister
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 7:34 am to
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I've seen 200 yards. Nothing for anyone who knows how to sight a rifle and practice just a bit with a 30.06

With a typical 30-06 rifle, set POI 2” high at 100 yds, and it’ll be 2” low at 250 yds. So assuming a 4” target, you’d have a 250 yd MPBR… point and shoot anywhere within that distance. Not everyone can hit from that distance, but I think most can with a decent rest.

For anyone with a limit of 150 yards, you are the cause, not the rifle.
Posted by Squirrelmeister
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 7:40 am to
Purple Haze, the typical maximum point blank range for a 30-06 is 250 yards. Meaning out the crosshairs on a deer sized animal kill zone and pull the trigger - you don’t have to account for bullet drop.

The guy saying the range is 150 yards doesn’t know what he is talking about. He insinuated that a 30-06 bulletin drops like a rock but he is mistaken. For those who want to use a rangefinder and adjustable turrets, a 30-06 can drop a deer from at least 700-800 yards and probably more.

His comment about a .308 being flatter shooting also didn’t make any sense, considering the same weight bulletin fired out of the .308 and 30-06 comparing apples to apples. The 30-06 at standard maximum pressures has more muzzle energy than the .308 and hence propels the bullet out faster, meaning the 30-06 will go a further distance than the .308 with the same drop, meaning the 30-06 is the flatter shooting cartridge.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 10:13 am to
I agree with you. 150-200 yards is nothing for 3006. Or 308 for that matter.
Posted by bass
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Posted on 9/13/25 at 1:17 am to
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Reason I bring it up with this, lots of older rifles used to be zeroed @ 300 yds on default. What happens with that- point of impact will be higher than point of aim inside 300 yds. You aim center chest @ 175-200 yds with something zeroed @ 300, you get impact higher, like the neck.
There’s a video explaining the shot from a sniper’s perspective. He mentioned shooting down on a slope with gravity is different from shooting on a level plain. He said gravity tends to bend the trajectory more as opposed to firing a shot in a level manner.
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