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re: Isn't a 30-06 round armor piercing?
Posted on 9/11/25 at 10:43 am to prplhze2000
Posted on 9/11/25 at 10:43 am to prplhze2000
quote:
Isn't a 30-06 round armor piercing?
30-06 is a measurement.
Armor piercing is a design.
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Posted on 9/11/25 at 10:43 am to Ping Pong
quote:
He got shot in the neck. What vest protects the neck?
seems to be evidence that the bullet deflected off a plate that Charlie had under his shirt and hit him in the neck. That would explain why the bullet didn't exit.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 10:43 am to prplhze2000
Depending on the set up - it can be.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 10:47 am to prplhze2000
quote:
Isn't a 30-06 round armor piercing?
Depends on the bullet and "armor” but in many cases yes a high powered rifle can easily defeat types of body armor
Posted on 9/11/25 at 10:54 am to prplhze2000
30-06 means a 30 caliber round that was invented in 1906. 30 aught six. It was the round used by the Army in WWII. My grandad carried one at Normandy. The military rifle used a 5 round clip (yes a clip, not a magazine). It was bolt action.
As others said it is basically the same as a .308. Slightly different cartridge but very similar bullet (both 30 cal).
The military moved away from it because it was too damn heavy. It weighed a soldier down and was a bitch to carry when you had to walk endless miles per day. That's why Stoner invented the AR-15.
As others said it is basically the same as a .308. Slightly different cartridge but very similar bullet (both 30 cal).
The military moved away from it because it was too damn heavy. It weighed a soldier down and was a bitch to carry when you had to walk endless miles per day. That's why Stoner invented the AR-15.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 11:00 am to Ping Pong
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What vest protects the neck?
Oh, they make neck protection but it looks very uncomfortable. You wouldn't wear it as a precaution.
This post was edited on 9/12/25 at 9:48 am
Posted on 9/11/25 at 11:23 am to Tantal
quote:
Depends on the armor.
Even at 200 yards with a Level-IV, the center-mass impact of a .30 caliber round is devastating. Minus the deflection if it was a deflection, Charlie might have lived but his sternum and ribs would have been broken and he'd have suffered some serious internal trauma.
I'm not an expert by any means but I have seen the aftermath of a lot of different rounds at a lot of different ranges, and there's a reason that ordinance in the .30-caliber family is so widely used and popular.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 6:34 pm to civiltiger07
Posted on 9/11/25 at 6:37 pm to AmishSamurai
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unlikely the twink that fired off the round was using black tip ammo ...
Aren't black tip 30-06 long out of production?
Posted on 9/11/25 at 6:41 pm to prplhze2000
quote:You have full metal jacket (FMJ) penetrates the deepest without coming apart. Not too useful for hunting. Then you have soft point, hollow point and ballistic tip. Ballistic tip is my favorite hunting cartridge and I shoot a 30.06.
Isn't a 30-06 round armor piercing?
Posted on 9/11/25 at 6:42 pm to civiltiger07
If you watch the video and zoom in, frame by frame, I think you see something that looks like the bullet deflecting up and hitting his neck. It is hard to see though.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 6:46 pm to Fat Fingers
I wouldn’t say that I see the bullet but you do see his shirt be affected by something. Then once the shirt settles out again there is a black mark that may be the bullet POI on his shirt.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 6:46 pm to prplhze2000
A traditional vest that the police wear day to day (Kevlar) is only designed to stop small arms fire (handguns primarily). The military wears something completely different and they are ceramic plates that absorb the round and preserve life. A 30-06 can be stopped by level IV plates.
Hope this clears it up. Taking about this is all completely irrelevant, but here we are.
Hope this clears it up. Taking about this is all completely irrelevant, but here we are.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 6:47 pm to prplhze2000
You can buy AP rounds. They have tips painted black.
But a typical round isn’t AP.
But a typical round isn’t AP.
This post was edited on 9/11/25 at 6:48 pm
Posted on 9/11/25 at 6:58 pm to Jack Ruby
quote:I know I've said this in another thread, but your username for this topic is ironic AF.
Aren't black tip 30-06 long out of production?
There are plenty of people who have stocked up on M2AP. I just went on Gunbroker and found it for about $4/round. I'm sure at a gun show is more expensive but it wouldn't be cost prohibitive if you were using it for as assassination.
From what I've seen, most people use that now to test body armor.
I got some thoughts on this body armor discussion but I'm about to make a phone fall.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 6:59 pm to Ping Pong
quote:There is a video showing the bullet deflected off the vest and fell to the ground. What killed Charlie was a small piece of shrapnel that dislodged from the bullet as it hit the vest.
He got shot in the neck. What vest protects the neck?
Posted on 9/11/25 at 7:00 pm to Ping Pong
bingo! It doesn't matter at all about a vest. The shooter was aiming at a place that would not be protected by a vest
Posted on 9/11/25 at 7:03 pm to Deuces
quote:
It will jack up a deer, I know that.
M-1 Garand jacked up a lot of Germans and Japanese
Posted on 9/11/25 at 7:03 pm to prplhze2000
30-06 M2 AP black tips will penetrate up to, but not including, level 4 plates.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 7:05 pm to XenScott
I have shot a 30-06, Ruger American with Leopold var 111 scope forever. The effective range is really 150 yards or less although some people do occasionally make 200 yards shots it’s not an idea weapon for long shots because even at 200 yards you may have some drop depending upon wind velocity etc. A .308 which I have in a AR model shoots much flatter for those type of longer shots but lacks some of the knockdown power.
Was the shot from over 200 yards?
Was the shot from over 200 yards?
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