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Is Vance Backing Away from Trump?

Posted on 11/4/26 at 2:27 pm
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
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Posted on 11/4/26 at 2:27 pm
Just heard this on some silly arse radio talk show.

Their reasoning was supposedly due to the fact that Vance publicly acknowledged that the war damaged Repubs in this election.

...but can anyone actually confirm this? Does he seem to be trying to distance himself from The Don?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
102074 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 2:28 pm to
Back away from what

Get back to work and finish Iran
Im almost certain he said for all of you to stop crying
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
22247 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 2:28 pm to
I think has acknowledged as much as well.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 11/4/26 at 2:29 pm to
quote:

Is Vance Backing Away from Trump?


isn't it the best strategy for ALL INVOLVED?
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
22854 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 2:29 pm to
quote:

Back away from what


It's in the title of the thread Mensa boy.
Posted by AggieDub14
Oil Baron
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 11/4/26 at 2:29 pm to
Its a common sense response. No new wars was a promise not kept.
Posted by AkronTiger
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Posted on 11/4/26 at 2:30 pm to
He put out his own statement today that said exactly this. It was him saying “this was Trump, not me” without saying it in regards to why the GOP lost.
This post was edited on 11/4/26 at 2:31 pm
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 11/4/26 at 2:30 pm to
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
22284 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 2:30 pm to
Who cares what Vance does. He’s comprised, he needs to go.
Posted by LSU4LIFEo85
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 11/4/26 at 2:31 pm to
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He made a massive post on X directly blaming Trump's decisions and poor current condition of the country. He's jumping ship

One of the things the data analysts on our side obsessed over was "composition"—whether the electorate looked close enough to 2024 for Republicans to win. And despite polls that showed a Democrat blowout, the data kept on telling us the same story: in some states turnout was merely OK, in other states it was downright amazing, and in no state was it catastrophic. There was a genuine sense of optimism on our team: our people were showing up.

So, I asked the smartest data guy I know, does that mean we're going to shock the world? "No," he told me. "We might do better than the polls suggest. But the data is telling us that a lot of Trump/Vance 2024 voters are pissed and planning to vote for the other guys. Our voters are turning out, but they may not vote for us."

Well, that looks prophetic now. Our voters did show up. In Florida, for example, the electorate was 9 points more Republican than Democrat, just a couple points worse than 2024. Undoubtedly there were places we could have done better on turnout. But the main problem is not turnout. The main problem is that many people who voted for Trump/Vance in 2024 voted for Democrats in 2026.

There will be a lot of infighting and arguing over what happened and why that is. One of the pollsters I really respect told me that our economic messaging wasn’t sharp enough down the stretch. I’m sure that’s true.

But the real reason we lost is obvious to almost everyone.

Another pollster—one of the smartest people I know in politics, told me yesterday we’d lose the generic ballot by 13 points. I felt negative going into Tuesday, but even I was shocked by this. In his polling, he saw that a lot of Trump 2024 voters were angry and planning to vote for Democrats. He asked those voters who had abandoned us what would cause them to come back on our team. The top four answers, accounting for nearly all of the responses were:

1) End the war
2) Focus on cost of living/inflation
3) Put America First
4) Change our relationship to Israel

Our voters showed up. And the above four reasons are why many of them voted for Democrats. This is according to a pollster who nailed the results. While many spent Monday attacking Rachel Campos Duffy for calling for a diplomatic resolution to the conflict, it turns out her political advice was sound. (She’s also a great person.)

In the next few months, there's going to be a lot of gaslighting. Expect to hear any number of establishment politicians say the solution to our woes is amnesty. I'm open to the idea that we should change enforcement—by focusing more on businesses that hire illegal labor, for instance. But anyone pushing amnesty is lying to you.

The reason we lost is the war. The president himself said so last night.

If you'd like to argue it was worth it, that losing the Senate for the next 6 years was worth it, then do so. Argue it was a worthwhile cost to pay. Agree or disagree, that's at least honest.

But everyone knows why we lost. And any honest conversation about where we go from here must start there.

I remain hopeful about our country. To the people who are pissed off and want to say, “I told you so”: you’re right, you did tell us so. Take that energy into electing Republicans who share your worldview. To the people who are just pissed at the results, you should be. Let’s take that anger and get back to the work of saving our country.
This post was edited on 11/4/26 at 2:37 pm
Posted by Motownsix
NOLA
Member since Oct 2022
3559 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 2:32 pm to
James Bowman commited career suicide by joining that ballot. This was the only way it was ever going to go.
Posted by Deuces
The bottom
Member since Nov 2011
17282 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 2:33 pm to
Nah.

I think he just gave an honest assessment of last night. He said that they have some things to work on.

I thought it was great. It’s nice to hear a politician be receptive to constructive feedback.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
77582 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 2:34 pm to
Republican Party is in full implosion mode.
Posted by Tmcgin
BATON ROUGE
Member since Jun 2010
6602 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 2:35 pm to
Trump is liability and will
steal the silverware on the way out of town
Posted by aubie101
Russia
Member since Nov 2010
4383 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 2:35 pm to
If his smart, he runs away.
Posted by 4LSU2
Mandeville
Member since Dec 2009
38227 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 2:37 pm to
ALL of this is a psy-op to keep the optics clear of no administration interference when the proof is relayed beyond a shadow of a doubt of how this election was stolen from the people. It opens the doors to the same decision regarding the 2020 election and much more.

Don't fall for the propaganda we are seeing. It had to be this way.
Posted by Judnnc
Member since Jun 2025
1200 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 2:38 pm to
alot of Benedict Arnolds have suddenly appeared today. If you can't beat em, join em, right?
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
21731 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 2:38 pm to
He would if he was smart.

Trump is a lame duck president.

The best strategy for 2028 is moving on from Trump and MAGA. Set a new platform of True conservatism. I suspect after the next 2 years of blowharding and peach mint attempts the country will be ready.
Posted by lurking
Member since Nov 2022
4270 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 2:39 pm to
quote:

Get back to work and finish Iran


Fast forward to a month from now when no escalation happens and democrats further cuck MAGA by ending the Iran war and this retard will be spamming the board claiming we won
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
50137 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 2:40 pm to
If he's smart
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