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Is trumps Iran deal better than Obama’s?
Posted on 6/22/26 at 4:37 pm
Posted on 6/22/26 at 4:37 pm
I’ll hang up and listen.
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Posted on 6/22/26 at 4:41 pm to Bison
Not sure.. But Iran is effed up after Trump bombed them...
Under Obama Iran continued to work on nuclear weaponization.. We will see what happens now...
Under Obama Iran continued to work on nuclear weaponization.. We will see what happens now...
Posted on 6/22/26 at 4:42 pm to Bison
Trump spent a lot more in American lives and money to end up with no effective difference from before he started.
Posted on 6/22/26 at 4:45 pm to Bison
What deal? Every time I hear there is a deal, Iran fires on someone immediately.
Posted on 6/22/26 at 4:47 pm to Bison
quote:
I’ll hang up and listen.
Why not research it and come up with a conclusion by yourself?
Posted on 6/22/26 at 4:49 pm to Bison
i think most americans just want this to be over. we don't care about the details, just end it.
Posted on 6/22/26 at 4:53 pm to Bison
Obama's deal left them with an intact army, navy, airforce and them funding hamas, hezbollah, and the hooters.
Under Trump's deal, they have none that.
Iran is most definitely in a weaker position.
Under Trump's deal, they have none that.
Iran is most definitely in a weaker position.
Posted on 6/22/26 at 4:54 pm to Rebel
quote:
Iran is most definitely in a weaker position.
Care to explain how either you or I benefit from this development?
Posted on 6/22/26 at 4:55 pm to Bison
quote:
Is trumps Iran deal better than Obama’s?
While I’m not crazy about DJT’s presumed “deal” from what I know so far….in fairness, we’ve had about 11 years now to look back upon and assess Obama’s deal ….and a few days to assess Trump’s deal.
Posted on 6/22/26 at 4:57 pm to Great Plains Drifter
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and a few days to assess Trump’s deal.
We don't really have a firm deal in place. It's an attempt at a ceasefire until we can hopefully reach a deal in the future.
Hopefully the ceasefire deal holds and we reach a deal that is better than the Obama deal. It's obviously a delicate situation to even get to that point though.
Posted on 6/22/26 at 4:57 pm to Bison
The simple fact that he took out the prior leadership, lol yes.
Posted on 6/22/26 at 4:58 pm to Powerman
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Care to explain how either you or I benefit from this development?
That’s been answered literally countless times. Don’t confuse being completely in the dark about that with simply not agreeing with any of the responses that have been posted.
This post was edited on 6/22/26 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 6/22/26 at 5:00 pm to Athis
quote:
Under Obama Iran continued to work on nuclear weaponization.. We will see what happens now...
Did they, though?
The JCPOA was only in place for 3 years, 2016-2019. Iran was enriching uranium before 2016, although it had scaled back its program for weapons grade enrichment. While the JCPOA was in place, Iran allowed regular IAEA inspections, and no violations were found.
After Trump terminated the JCPOA in 2019, Iran resumed its enrichment program and allowed fewer IAEA inspections...but the IAEA was well aware of Iran's enrichment progress as well as undisclosed locations of enriched uranium and the underground facilities.
So, maybe Iran was secretly violating the JCPOA while it was in force, but there is no hard evidence of that. Since the JCPOA was terminated, Iran has not tried very hard to hide anything.
Posted on 6/22/26 at 5:01 pm to Bison
You clowns along with your IRGC bretheren keep sayinf there is no deal
I will hang up and listen
I will hang up and listen
Posted on 6/22/26 at 5:01 pm to Powerman
quote:
We don't really have a firm deal in place. It's an attempt at a ceasefire until we can hopefully reach a deal in the future. Hopefully the ceasefire deal holds and we reach a deal that is better than the Obama deal. It's obviously a delicate situation to even get to that point though.
Fair and reasonable response.
Posted on 6/22/26 at 5:06 pm to CrystalPreserves
"No effective difference"
Navy sunk.
Air Force destroyed on the ground.
Army scattered to the winds because if they bunch up they get slaughtered.
Population seething and wanting blood of the Mullahs.
No Nuclear program left.
No Nuclear scientists still alive.
No centrifuges.
Bomb materials buried under a mile of dirt and rock.
Economy in total freefall.
No ability to build more longer range missiles.
No plants left for drones.
Kharg Island just sitting there without a way to actually defend itself if we decide to take it from them.
But yeah, same thing really.
Navy sunk.
Air Force destroyed on the ground.
Army scattered to the winds because if they bunch up they get slaughtered.
Population seething and wanting blood of the Mullahs.
No Nuclear program left.
No Nuclear scientists still alive.
No centrifuges.
Bomb materials buried under a mile of dirt and rock.
Economy in total freefall.
No ability to build more longer range missiles.
No plants left for drones.
Kharg Island just sitting there without a way to actually defend itself if we decide to take it from them.
But yeah, same thing really.
Posted on 6/22/26 at 5:14 pm to Powerman
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Powerchud
if you don't understand how the easing of tensions in the middle east affects international trade and why that is a good thing for the US, there is no need to try and explain it to you.
iran was fricking around and sooner or later israel would be forced to drop a nuke. why can you not think strategically?
Posted on 6/22/26 at 5:16 pm to Captain Rumbeard
None of that shite you just said is remotely accurate.
Posted on 6/22/26 at 5:17 pm to LawTalkingGuy
This is a good rant about the shenanigans we pulled with JCPOA. To Reb's point, Trump straight up admits at the end it didn't deal with ballistic missiles or proxies. But, the deal was not about that.
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If tweet fails to load, click here.Posted on 6/22/26 at 5:17 pm to Captain Rumbeard
exposed Iran for who we knew they always were/are
4 levels (at least and so far) of leadership wiped out
Iran alienates itself (further) from its Muslim neighbors by attacking them
Iran reveals their missile range capabilities are/were far further than previously disclosed hopefully waking up Europe
NATO exposes to the US who they are and what a waste it is to fund
actual vulnerabilities to the worlds supply via the SOH are exposed. Countries who rely on it for fuel or other (fertilizer) both on supply and demand side get an opportunity to review their plans moving forward
China and Russia don't lift a finger to help Iran exposing those "alliances".
EDIT:
the world witnesses the US put on one of the most dominant (and compassionate) military displays in world history without putting a boot on the ground. Putting to rest the international disgrace that was our retreat from Afghanistan. Puts China on notice to not frick with Taiwan. Makes Russia's look like a paper tiger after their multi year boondoggle in Ukraine. Demonstrates to Israel there is not a need (so far) to make the rubble that was made in Gaza (while still being willing and able to do so)
4 levels (at least and so far) of leadership wiped out
Iran alienates itself (further) from its Muslim neighbors by attacking them
Iran reveals their missile range capabilities are/were far further than previously disclosed hopefully waking up Europe
NATO exposes to the US who they are and what a waste it is to fund
actual vulnerabilities to the worlds supply via the SOH are exposed. Countries who rely on it for fuel or other (fertilizer) both on supply and demand side get an opportunity to review their plans moving forward
China and Russia don't lift a finger to help Iran exposing those "alliances".
EDIT:
the world witnesses the US put on one of the most dominant (and compassionate) military displays in world history without putting a boot on the ground. Putting to rest the international disgrace that was our retreat from Afghanistan. Puts China on notice to not frick with Taiwan. Makes Russia's look like a paper tiger after their multi year boondoggle in Ukraine. Demonstrates to Israel there is not a need (so far) to make the rubble that was made in Gaza (while still being willing and able to do so)
This post was edited on 6/22/26 at 5:28 pm
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