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Is trump the cleanest president ever ?

Posted on 7/26/19 at 7:44 am
Posted by ODanMan
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Posted on 7/26/19 at 7:44 am
19 Clinton lawyers crawled up his arse with a microscope for 2yrs and found nothing, not to mention the press looking night and day. I would like to know how the MSM has spent trying to bury the president, I’d bet it’s way more than 23mil.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
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Posted on 7/26/19 at 7:45 am to
Trust in the SDNY
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 7/26/19 at 7:45 am to
Washington
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72005 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 7:45 am to
Well, I wouldn’t say clean, but he is Teflon as frick.

He has had his share of controversial acts that would have destroyed most politicians.

He just doesn’t cower.
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
32640 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 7:47 am to
Muh emoluments
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
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Posted on 7/26/19 at 7:48 am to
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Well, I wouldn’t say clean, but he is Teflon as frick.

yeah i have no doubt Trump's dealings pre-Presidency were dirty and he definitely flirted with Russian intel

however, the biggest issues seem to be he's inexperienced. the agency acts that have been attacked/overturned were just not vetted enough and didn't follow the exact procedures to get passed. their content was legal, but the process had issues. and his "obstruction" claims clearly are just an inexperienced politician being rash (and having his staff wait out the outburst to get a rational plan from him, which is why you have good staff)
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16285 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 7:50 am to
I imagine Obama would be the cleanest. He looks like the type that applies hand sanitizer every time he touches a door or shakes someone's hand.
Posted by Animal
Member since Dec 2017
4217 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 7:54 am to
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19 Clinton lawyers crawled up his arse with a microscope for 2yrs and found nothing, not to mention the press looking night and day. I would like to know how the MSM has spent trying to bury the president, I’d bet it’s way more than 23mil.


The keys to his success:
1.) frick you money
2.) Don't give a frick about criticism
3.) Don't apologize. If you do you empower your
opponents
Posted by Walkthedawg
Dawg Pound
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/26/19 at 8:00 am to
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Muh emoluments


Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
17424 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 8:07 am to
The fact that Trump doesn't drink, doesn't smoke, and doesn't do drugs puts him in the top 5% right off the bat. I have got to imagine most comped politicians have woken up off a bender with a hooker in bed.
Posted by PioneerFigureSkating
Member since Jul 2019
174 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 8:10 am to
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Well, I wouldn’t say clean, but he is Teflon as frick.



I disagree. I think he's clean. I watched some documentary about him on Netflix awhile back. Can't remember the name, but it followed him back to when he was a young adult up through now.

It was interesting to me because I don't know if we have ever had a President who was more well known than Trump. His entire adult life has been spent in front of a camera it seems.

Anyways, everyone knows that when he had Trump tower built that it was built with the cooperation of the mob. Trump had to approach them to get ahold of all the concrete needed to build his tower. (The entire structure is made of concrete. It's one of a kind.) Anyways, all the way back then his family was insulating him from dealing with shady people. The mobsters had to go through his family members. Donald Trump wouldn't deal with them.

He has been preparing for this for a long time and I'm fairly certain that although he has rubbed plenty of elbows with dirty people by now (Clinton's, Epstein, etc) he himself hasn't stepped one single toe outside the boundaries of the law. Because if he had he would not be President right now. He would have been impeached.
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
20350 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 8:15 am to
As far as modern Presidents go, Truman was pretty clean as far as I know. Eisenhower, too perhaps. I'm not saying this with any authority, but I can't think of any particular case of shady shite done before they became President. Maybe Carter too, other than lusting in his heart.

In retrospect, Truman did get started as part of a political machine but managed to break free of it. Eisenhower was working with MacArthur in running the Bonus Army marchers out of Washington, but at the time there was no outrage over that.
This post was edited on 7/26/19 at 8:25 am
Posted by PioneerFigureSkating
Member since Jul 2019
174 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 8:22 am to
George Washington and some of our other founders are portrayed as honorable men. I've also always had the feeling Teddy Roosevelt was a good man as well. Although, it's hard to say for sure as these guys were in charge a long time ago.

Another thing to consider is that politicians are often put into lose-lose situations that may taint their character somewhat. So it's hard to say for sure, but near as I can tell, Donald Trump, for all his hubris and bravado, seems to be a damn good dude. Just gotta grant him some slack for having that mouthy New Yorker come out often.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54202 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 8:28 am to
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not to mention the press looking night and day


Nah, I don't give the press that much credit for doing their job. Depending on leaks for stories is not investigative reporting.
Posted by bayouvette
Raceland
Member since Oct 2005
4714 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 8:32 am to
I'm still amazed that they couldn't find anything legally to pin on him. No one had their entire lives unearth by the most powerful legal organization with unlimited resources like this before.

and he was clean.. shits amazing. I for sure thought he was gonna go down because of something with a women, but he cleans his trails well.
Posted by Tiger985
Member since Nov 2006
6461 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 8:53 am to
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Well, I wouldn’t say clean, but he is Teflon as frick.


Dude was heard talking about grabbing pussies a month before the election and won.

His critics have been so hysterical they have actually innoculated him from something real.

His supporters (like me) are highly skeptical whenever the latest outrage hits.

Trump is unlike anyone ever in the history of American politics and I recognize that is saying a mouthful.



Posted by zatetic
Member since Nov 2015
5677 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 9:19 am to
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Trump is unlike anyone ever in the history of American politics


I feel like this is only true of modern presidents.

Andrew Jackson seemed to say quite a lot. And he got rid of the national bank. You are probably not a dirty politician if you get rid of actual money printing.

Posted by brooksbabino
Member since Nov 2009
86 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 9:34 am to
No. You Fox Newsers seem to live in an alternate reality.
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
26774 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 9:35 am to
No. Washington.
Posted by Walkthedawg
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/26/19 at 9:36 am to
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