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Is this likely true? A Truth Bomb?

Posted on 6/3/26 at 10:52 pm
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 6/3/26 at 10:52 pm
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 6/3/26 at 10:54 pm to
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Rough estimate: the US White population today would be perhaps 400k–1.5M higher.

This assumes ~80k–120k prevented White deaths by Black perpetrators since 1865 (most homicides intra-racial; modern FBI data shows ~15% of known White victims killed by Black offenders) plus average lineage effects over generations.

The difference is negligible next to ~195M non-Hispanic Whites, driven overwhelmingly by European immigration and broad fertility trends. Exact lineages cannot be modeled precisely from available data.
Posted by AlwysATgr
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Posted on 6/3/26 at 10:55 pm to
I've occasionally wondered how many blacks were lynched vs how many whites have been killed by blacks.

As for the OP X post, are there accurate statistics on how many blacks were "killed" by whites during slavery.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 6/3/26 at 11:03 pm to
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As for the OP X post, are there accurate statistics on how many blacks were "killed" by whites during slavery.

I've read several books that addressed that.

The general consensus was that more died at the hands of slave traders, on ships, than died once they reached the Colonies.

Once here, once they became "property," it wasn't just frowned upon for Christian reasons, it was frowned upon for business reasons.

Investment reasons. Production reasons.

It took a lot, something really bad, for a slave to be hanged or shot. It didn't take place as often as Hollywood tries to depict it. And it usually was recorded.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 6/3/26 at 11:10 pm to
quote:

As for the OP X post, are there accurate statistics on how many blacks were "killed" by whites during slavery.


Like Scrooster said... we tend to take care of our property- especially property that is for earning our income.

I'm sure there must have been some hothead assholes- but for the most part you take care of your investments.

Posted by AlwysATgr
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Posted on 6/3/26 at 11:21 pm to
quote:

It took a lot, something really bad, for a slave to be hanged or shot. It didn't take place as often as Hollywood tries to depict it. And it usually was recorded.


Not doubting this in the least.

During the COVID "pandemic," if someone was killed in an auto accident but had tested positive for COVID, then cause of death might be attributed to COVID. In the case of the death of a slave, if Hollywood wanted to inflate the #s, they might well count any death from flu, etc to 'killed by owner." Conversely, someone else may only count those known to have been killed by owner for cause, e.g., as punishment should one slave have murdered another.

I was just asking what's the pedigree of the data. That's all.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 6/3/26 at 11:47 pm to
Well only 3 percent of african slaves came to the usa. ~380k by most historians records.
Posted by Goforit
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Posted on 6/4/26 at 12:00 am to
African tribes sold members of defeated or captured rival tribes to slave traders, who then transported them to the New World. Europeans also brought many slaves to the New World. Therefore, anyone seeking reparations should first direct their claims to Africa and Europe.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 6/4/26 at 12:05 am to
Slaves brought to US - 400K

Slaves brought to Brazil - 5.5M
Posted by ezride25
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Posted on 6/4/26 at 12:10 am to
Capitalizing Black and White is something that I haven’t seen before. Usually Black gets capitalized and white remains unchanged. Some see racism, while others assert their inability to be racist because of their skin color.

Either way, when it comes to sowing division based on skin color, the dems have never stopped.

Using black and white assigns no undue significance to ordinary fact. Using Black and White is underscored by the promulgation of ideas surrounding segregation based on skin color.

The way you choose to use these terms says a lot about you as a human being.
Posted by LLeD
Member since Apr 2026
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Posted on 6/4/26 at 12:24 am to
A surprising Truth Bomb: forgotten history is the never-before-told story of Americans lured to soviet russia by promises of jobs and a better life, but met a tragic end.

In the 1940s, the soviets did not want it to be made public that so many Americans had come to russia or that so many American industrialists had helped industrialize the soviet union.

In March 1932, the New York Times reported that immigration to the soviet union was 1,000 people a week, but continued to grow.
By 1937, tens of thousands of Americans had been arrested, many executed. Others were sent to GULAG camps, where they died at back-breaking work.

BOOK: "The forsaken", by Tim Tzouliadis, 2008.
LINK

Americans in the Gulag: Detention of US Citizens by russia
LINK





This post was edited on 6/4/26 at 12:30 am
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 6/4/26 at 6:03 am to
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Slaves brought to US - 400K

Slaves brought to Brazil - 5.5M


Yeah, but that's different because you can't effectively guilt-grift for something done by and within another country.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 6/4/26 at 6:36 am to
Here in the Caribbean I read an interesting article regarding the trade. Ironworks in Birmingham England carried to Africa, traded for slaves and then on to the Caribbean.

These ships developed relationships with the same tribes who captured slaves, and with the same traders on the Caribbean island they frequented. As such they transferred specific "gene pools" of individuals to specific islands who then had their distinct culture.

Trinidad and Jamaica with great atheletes, music.....and very violent.
Barbados quiet and reserved.
St. Vincent and Tobago physically imposing individuals.



Posted by dstone12
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Posted on 6/4/26 at 6:49 am to
Posted by Nosevens
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Posted on 6/4/26 at 6:54 am to
Black mommas killing 1 million a year of those babies
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 6/4/26 at 7:04 am to
That lynching chart cant be correct.

I have been assured that only blacks have been lynched.
Posted by SoFlaGuy
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Posted on 6/4/26 at 8:01 am to
That can’t be true. They’re 13% of the population.

White man bad.
Posted by Timeoday
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Posted on 6/4/26 at 8:17 am to
Just like everything in our lives, there will always be the one or two bad apples that ruin the bushel. Hence, even now, the intense pressure put on those who tout "All Lives Matter" while "Black Lives Matter" is celebrated.

Posted by theballguy
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Posted on 6/4/26 at 8:20 am to
quote:

I was just asking what's the pedigree of the data. That's all.



These AIs have gotten very accurate of late. I don't doubt what Scrooster is proffering here.
Posted by theballguy
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Posted on 6/4/26 at 8:23 am to
A further thought, until there's no more special interest group pride/appreciation months, there for damn sure needs to be an Anglo pride month or movement.

And yes, Anglo and White should be capitalized if Black is.
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