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re: Is this Bills player a vaccine casualty?
Posted on 1/2/23 at 8:53 pm to crimson crazy
Posted on 1/2/23 at 8:53 pm to crimson crazy
There's a very small part of the chest wherein blunt trauma can cause instant death I recall from med school a few examples where car accidents that seemed minor caused death in healthy individuals.
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 8:54 pm to jonnyanony
Basically the heart rhythm is disrupted in a way that it cannot recover without CPR.
Posted on 1/2/23 at 8:54 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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If soccer players take shoulders to the chest on a regular basis
“It” in the “it looked exactly like” was the way he fell to the ground, not a hit from a routine football play.
Posted on 1/2/23 at 8:55 pm to I B Freeman
Lol. Yep Class is type something different on a message board.
I hope the players revolt
I hope the players revolt
Posted on 1/2/23 at 8:56 pm to TH095526
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nothing we've ever seen before on an NFL field
I wonder what is different in the NFL this year unlike previous seasons?
First of all, I’m praying for this young man regardless of the cause.
That said, people better talk about the possible causes of this if it is not definitely determined.
ETA: I personally think it was the hit to his chest UNRELATED to the vaccine. If so, that should be determined.
This post was edited on 1/2/23 at 9:05 pm
Posted on 1/2/23 at 8:56 pm to Damone
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As soon as I saw this, I figured the anti vax tards would be all over it. Sure enough, here we are.
So you had the same thoughts.
It could be a broken rib puncturing lung or heart.
Posted on 1/2/23 at 8:56 pm to Jaydeaux
It’s plausible I would think taking a shot to the chest and having a pulmonary embolism wouldn’t be a good thing
Posted on 1/2/23 at 8:57 pm to jonnyanony
quote:
Basically the heart rhythm is disrupted in a way that it cannot recover without CPR.
When I was a kid (7 or 8) one of my friends big brother died on the little league baseball field at age 10 from a fly ball that hit him directly in the chest.
Posted on 1/2/23 at 9:00 pm to GumboPot
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He took a shoulder pad directly the center of his chest.
This happens on almost every play.
timing.
commotio cordis
blow timed to heart beat exactly on left ventricle.
ingmar johannson ko'd floyd Patterson in their first heavy weight champ match.
Posted on 1/2/23 at 9:00 pm to GumboPot
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When I was a kid (7 or 8) one of my friends big brother died on the little league baseball field at age 10 from a fly ball that hit him directly in the chest.
Yep. I'm too many beers deep and too far removed from medical training to remember the details but it's common in younger men in sports
Posted on 1/2/23 at 9:00 pm to Jaydeaux
Vax casualty....uhh...no! The hit to his chest/sternum area probably caused some trauma to the heart, aorta, or some other vascular damage. I'm a firm no on this being vax related.
Posted on 1/2/23 at 9:01 pm to jonnyanony
But the trauma followed by immediate collapse just feels like that was it. Hopefully quick CPR saves his life.
Posted on 1/2/23 at 9:02 pm to CelticDog
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timing.
commotio cordis
Yes, this was it. If I recall it's more common in late teens. In med school we had a number of car accidents examples that were basically fender benders where younger men went into cardiac arrest.
Posted on 1/2/23 at 9:03 pm to GumboPot
Prayers for the young man are definitely in order.
But ignoring the adverse effects of the mRNA vaccines is irresponsible. 1 out of 800 shot have had adverse effects.
Vaccines have been pulled for 1 out of 100,000 adverse effects. Why can’t we get studies done in this country and at least a pause on the vaccines.
I have to get my trails information from Dr. John Campbell in the UK and he has to walk a fine line to just stay on YouTube
But ignoring the adverse effects of the mRNA vaccines is irresponsible. 1 out of 800 shot have had adverse effects.
Vaccines have been pulled for 1 out of 100,000 adverse effects. Why can’t we get studies done in this country and at least a pause on the vaccines.
I have to get my trails information from Dr. John Campbell in the UK and he has to walk a fine line to just stay on YouTube
Posted on 1/2/23 at 9:04 pm to Froman
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Your political view on vaccines
What about a scientific view?
Posted on 1/2/23 at 9:05 pm to SingleMalt1973
Except that he got up right after and then collapsed so no.
Posted on 1/2/23 at 9:05 pm to Jaydeaux
Fox Cincinnati reporter
Posted on 1/2/23 at 9:08 pm to CelticDog
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commotio cordis
This sounds like a very reasonable explanation
Some news station reported that he got cpr and a defibrillator and is intubated but not breathing on his own.
Posted on 1/2/23 at 9:09 pm to EKG
Any Drs here offer ideas as to an injury with report of has pulse but not breathing on his own?
Posted on 1/2/23 at 9:13 pm to THog
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Any Drs here offer ideas as to an injury with report of has pulse but not breathing on his own?
He received cpr for 9 minutes. I’m not a DR, but that tends to lead to brain damage.
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