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Is there anywhere a GOP AG can stack the deck against a Dem like they did against Trump...

Posted on 6/9/24 at 6:19 pm
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
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Posted on 6/9/24 at 6:19 pm
in NYC and ATL?
This post was edited on 6/9/24 at 6:21 pm
Posted by The Hurricane
Gulf of Mexico
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Posted on 6/9/24 at 6:21 pm to
I think the problem is that the GOP will never be in complete lockstep when it comes to such things.
Posted by azcatiger
somewhere
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Posted on 6/9/24 at 6:24 pm to
Beaumont Texas
Posted by Auburn1968
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Posted on 6/9/24 at 6:26 pm to
I'll settle for holding dems to account for their actual misdeeds like voter fraud. Denying anyone their constitutional and civil rights under the color of law is already a crime. Clearly, what the demprogs have attempted with Trump fits that.

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CIVIL RIGHTS CONSPIRACY


18 U.S.C. § 241

Conspiracy Against Rights

Section 241 makes it unlawful for two or more persons to agree to injure, threaten, or intimidate a person in the United States in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured by the Constitution or laws of the United States or because of his or her having exercised such a right.

Unlike most conspiracy statutes, §241 does not require, as an element, the commission of an overt act.

The offense is always a felony, even if the underlying conduct would not, on its own, establish a felony violation of another criminal civil rights statute. It is punishable by up to ten years imprisonment unless the government proves an aggravating factor (such as that the offense involved kidnapping aggravated sexual abuse, or resulted in death) in which case it may be punished by up to life imprisonment and, if death results, may be eligible for the death penalty.

Section 241 is used in Law Enforcement Misconduct and Hate Crime Prosecutions. It was historically used, before conspiracy-specific trafficking statutes were adopted, in Human Trafficking prosecutions.



MISCONDUCT BY LAW ENFORCEMENT & OTHER GOVERNMENT ACTORS


18 U.S.C. § 242

Deprivation of Rights Under Color of Law

This provision makes it a crime for someone acting under color of law to willfully deprive a person of a right or privilege protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States. It is not necessary that the offense be motivated by racial bias or by any other animus.

Defendants act under color of law when they wield power vested by a government entity. Those prosecuted under the statute typically include police officers, sheriff’s deputies, and prison guards. However other government actors, such as judges, district attorneys, other public officials, and public school employees can also act under color of law and can be prosecuted under this statute.
Posted by did_u_c_that
Member since Dec 2022
87 posts
Posted on 6/9/24 at 6:34 pm to
It is possible, just not realistic. First a credible investigation of fact finding leading to charges and indictment. The orange cult can't find enough facts to investigate and uncover more.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 6/9/24 at 6:35 pm to
The problem is going to be the personal jurisdiction.

DEMs can avoid red areas a lot easier than Republicans can avoid blue areas
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21280 posts
Posted on 6/9/24 at 6:35 pm to
The possibilities are endless, when using lawfare as the commie Dems have against Trump.
The problem is.... Conservative minded people
aren't morally bankrupt and possess some level of morals which constrain them from the level of corruption we see from the left. Dems believe a man can be a woman, no belief in our traditional American values, reject God and think it's ok to kill innocent babies.
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
56671 posts
Posted on 6/9/24 at 6:41 pm to
Yes but none of them Have the balls to do it. Republican politicians want Trump to go away just as bad as democrats do but they can’t afford to piss off the Trump supporters so they just remain quiet and try to act like they like him.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 6/9/24 at 6:58 pm to
quote:

DEMs can avoid red areas a lot easier than Republicans can avoid blue areas


That's why I asked the question. The Dems don't really have to venture into enemy territory like the GOP does.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 6/9/24 at 6:59 pm to
quote:

Republican politicians want Trump to go away just as bad as democrats do but they can’t afford to piss off the Trump supporters so they just remain quiet and try to act like they like him.


They really do despise the MAGA base.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35068 posts
Posted on 6/9/24 at 6:59 pm to
I’m not real sure what slo is talking about there. There really is no such thing as “personal jurisdiction” when it comes to criminal law, assuming that’s what the OP is referring to.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465838 posts
Posted on 6/9/24 at 7:03 pm to
That's the issue. DEMS can literally just not go to super red areas ever and their life wouldn't be affected much (if at all)

Posted by faraway
Member since Nov 2022
3556 posts
Posted on 6/9/24 at 7:08 pm to
powerful democrats would never even show up to court and nothing would be done
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465838 posts
Posted on 6/9/24 at 7:11 pm to
quote:

There really is no such thing as “personal jurisdiction” when it comes to criminal law,

Different states use different terms, but states can only prosecute you for alleged crimes committed within their borders.
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
50880 posts
Posted on 6/9/24 at 7:12 pm to
First you have to find a ruthless GOP AG with balls.

That’s not easy to find.

They tend to be pussies.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465838 posts
Posted on 6/9/24 at 7:14 pm to
quote:

First you have to find a ruthless GOP AG with balls.

That’s not easy to find.

They tend to be pussies.

They have balls if its' a poor person or person unfavored in the community, perceived as an out-group member
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35068 posts
Posted on 6/9/24 at 7:34 pm to
quote:

]but states can only prosecute you for alleged crimes committed within their borders.

Of course. But as I assume you’re aware it doesn’t take much time or territory in a given state to commit a crime. Even just “passing through” can submit oneself to a particular jurisdiction. Hell if it’s the Democrat model we’re following you can probably bootstrap a 15 year old jaywalking rap into a felony.
This post was edited on 6/9/24 at 7:35 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465838 posts
Posted on 6/9/24 at 7:41 pm to
quote:

Even just “passing through” can submit oneself to a particular jurisdiction

Sure, but my comment remains the same.

It's a lost easier for DEMs to avoid super red areas than it is for Republicans to avoid super blue areas.

And it has to be much more than just the state, as you know. Take Texas. A DEM can feel pretty safe flying into Dallas, Houston, Austin, etc. without any fears of a political-targeted prosecution, b/c this areas are very Democrat-heavy. Can a Rep, even one from Texas, live easily within Texas, and avoid Dallas, Houston, Austin, etc.? That'd be tough.
This post was edited on 6/9/24 at 7:42 pm
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
27862 posts
Posted on 6/9/24 at 7:42 pm to
This is a game we really don’t want to play. The Dems have committed actual crimes. Prosecute them for those crimes in a fair trial as best as that will be possible.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53709 posts
Posted on 6/9/24 at 8:05 pm to
quote:


in NYC and ATL?


I can guarantee if any member of the Biden Crime Syndicate , any of the 51 former intel spooks, any of the Bureaucratic State Skunks, etc. were on trial in Platte County MO they just as well kiss their asses goodbye, they're done.
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