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Is it safe to say if Trump loses, the senate is gone, and vice versa for the house?

Posted on 7/9/20 at 8:35 am
Posted by Northwestern tiger
Long Island NY
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 8:35 am
Most consequential elections in our lifetime

Posted by 2 Jugs
Saint Amant
Member since Feb 2018
1852 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 8:36 am to
Quit being a crybaby.

Trump will not lose.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 8:41 am to
Pretty much honestly

Senate is currently 53-47

Alabama and Colorado most assuredly will flip cancelling each other out.

Arizona (Mcsally)
Maine (Collins)

Are the most likely to lose

Both of Georgia seats, North Carolina, Montana should be red regardless. Unless Biden wins Georgia and NC but I don't see that specifically happening.

I think the GOP holds on regardless.
Posted by Simplemaaan
Member since Sep 2007
3809 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 8:42 am to
Did you count mittens for the dems?
Posted by GeneralLee
Member since Aug 2004
13104 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 8:43 am to
Out of the outcomes where Trump loses, probably 30% of those outcomes would have Trump losing but GOP still maintaining a slim Senate majority. Trump can lose MI/WI/PA but still have enough coattails to preserve GOP senate seats in NC, MT, ME, etc.
Posted by GeneralLee
Member since Aug 2004
13104 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 8:44 am to
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Both of Georgia seats, North Carolina, Montana should be red regardless


MT will be a nail biter. Bullock is popular and Montana voters are funky. I think Trump still clears 60% in MT, but there will be lots of split ticket voters. I think Daines will still hang on, but it'll be like 51/49.
Posted by Northwestern tiger
Long Island NY
Member since Oct 2005
23484 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 8:45 am to
Dane is in trouble in Montana
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
27356 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 8:46 am to
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Northwestern tiger


quote:

Minneapolis


I get your concern because of where you live but consider this.

Just remove Trump out of the picture. Anyone who voted for him in 2016 is not going to vote for the chaotic BS being pushed by the left.

The #1 cause of candidate voting is fear.

Guess what a record number of gun purchases were made since the riots. People who never dreamed of wanting guns now own them and they know exactly who's responsible for terrorizing them. It's not Trump.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19235 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 8:47 am to
It would be a catastrophe. The radicals would push their agenda through very quickly with little to no opposition from within the Democratic Party.

It’s a truly grim scenario
Posted by GeneralLee
Member since Aug 2004
13104 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 8:47 am to
If I had to guess if the election was today... Trump loses, GOP loses AZ/MT/ME/NC, so Dems have a 51/49 Senate majority. But, I think things will improve by November to where Trump wins and GOP only loses AZ and maybe ME (with a 50/50 pickup shot in MI with James). Both scenarios assuming the CO/AL wash of seats changing hands.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 8:49 am to
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MT will be a nail biter. Bullock is popular and Montana voters are funky. I think Trump still clears 60% in MT, but there will be lots of split ticket voters. I think Daines will still hang on, but it'll be like 51/49.


It will but I think Daines hold on specifically because of how fricking far left the Dems are going. He has a lot of ammo at his disposal and Montanans don't want what's happening across the country.
Posted by CenlaLowell
Alexandria, la
Member since Apr 2016
1013 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 8:51 am to
Oh god, tin foil guy
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
11806 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 8:52 am to
Current senate battle ground map

GOP should win NC. Maine could go ether way, Colorado is going Dem, and AZ should be leaning Dem

figure 51/49 or 52/48 at best for R's

but a 51/49 with Momney, Murkawski, Collins and a dem white house (VP as tie breaker vote in senate) not looking too good


Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42407 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 8:56 am to
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Trump will not lose.

You're more confident than me. Between the no holds barred efforts of the Democrats to defeat Trump and the other things happening in this country (even if those things aren't Trump's fault), I don't think his path to reelection is as clear as it once was. I'm not saying he is going to lose, but I could see it going either way as of now.
This post was edited on 7/9/20 at 8:57 am
Posted by GeneralLee
Member since Aug 2004
13104 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 8:56 am to
I really do think James is a huge sleeper in MI. He outperformed the polls quite a bit in the "blue wave" election in '18 and came within 6 pts of Stabenow. Peters is not as popular as Stabenow. If Trump is within 2-3 pts in MI, I think that's enough to get James across the finish line.
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
19307 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:07 am to
If Trump loses we can forget reclaiming the House. The Senate may still be technically in GOP control but enough RINOs are there to essentially roll over.

If he wins we may get the House, but not sure as to # of rollover RINOs.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56493 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:13 am to
If Trump loses, the country is gone.

The left wants to eliminate the police. They want to destroy capitalism.
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
6497 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:21 am to
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MT will be a nail biter. Bullock is popular and Montana voters are funky


Any time Montana politics comes up, I keep recalling a radio interview I heard with Dirk Benedict years ago (the original Starbuck from the original Battlestar Galactica, not that *&^%$ remake).

Anyway, he lives in Montana, and he was mocking all the big ranchers in the state, talking about how Montana has this rough and ready Wild West image, but in reality, all the landowners are essentially welfare queens that are whores for the federal government and are utterly dependent on Agriculture Department subsidies. it explains why Montana goes Democrat so often despite having a social structure that would peg it as Republican just about anywhere else.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11100 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:23 am to
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Most consequential elections in our lifetime



No it's not
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16379 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:26 am to
Not necessarily. There will be people that will not vote for Trump, but will vote R the rest of the way on their ballot.

Also, because we use the EC for the President; there are a number of states that hold a lot of weight in determining the President, but have the same weight as smaller states in determining the Senate.
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