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re: Is homeschooling the next hill to die on for liberals in America?

Posted on 11/22/23 at 8:55 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 11/22/23 at 8:55 am to
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The problem is that your kid's experience in school is not going to be like yours.


Exactly.
Schools are very different than they were just 20 years ago.

With AI and other new technologies, teachers will be largely irrelevant in a few years.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/22/23 at 8:56 am to
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The most pernicious lie perpetrated upon most of us was the pledge of eternal loyalty to the Feral Government of the United States that we were required to recite uncritically in government youth indoctrination centers (aka as public schools.)


Public schools are, by and large, a function of state/local governments.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/22/23 at 8:57 am to
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Homeschooled children experience none of these things.


How do homeschooled children get to experience a large population of other children on a daily basis?
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 11/22/23 at 8:59 am to
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Public schools are, by and large, a function of state/local governments.




Yes. And state/local governments are by and large vassals of the Federal government.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/22/23 at 8:59 am to
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What are the guidelines for the homeschool curriculum?



Depends on the program. The dominant programs in AK have a teacher or teachers who review each students progress. One of the programs here puts a macbook in your home for your kids.

The kids also participate in the same activities public/private schools participate in.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 11/22/23 at 9:00 am to
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Yes. And state/local governments are by and large vassals of the Federal government.


Absolutely.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/22/23 at 9:00 am to
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And state/local governments are by and large vassals of the Federal government.

If you're going to get that squishy with definitions, then so are the parents who homeschool their children
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 11/22/23 at 9:00 am to
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He may end up flirting with or kissing a guy who goes by the name "Tina" and takes puberty blockers and estrogen.


….potayto, potahto.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 11/22/23 at 9:02 am to
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If you're going to get that squishy with definitions, then so are the parents who homeschool their children


You certainly are an authority on squishy definitions.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 11/22/23 at 9:04 am to
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You certainly are an authority on squishy definitions.


Comparing federally funded schools to parent teaching their own kids an independent curriculum is very dishonest.
Posted by wackatimesthree
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Posted on 11/22/23 at 9:04 am to
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Public schools are, by and large, a function of state/local governments.


Nope.

They are administered by state and local governments, but they are controlled by the federal government.

Did Obama's mandate that gils have to allow boys into their bathrooms and locker rooms happen as a local initiative or was it a federal mandate?
This post was edited on 11/22/23 at 9:07 am
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 11/22/23 at 9:07 am to
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If you're going to get that squishy with definitions, then so are the parents who homeschool their children



Parents have absolute veto power when it comes to curriculum in education, or at the very least they can bring balance to what is taught.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/22/23 at 9:08 am to
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Did Obama's mandate that gils have to allow boys into their bathrooms and locker rooms happen as a local initiative or was it a federal mandate?


That's about 10,000th on the list of important issues relating to schooling
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/22/23 at 9:12 am to
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Comparing federally funded schools


Federal funding of schools isn't really a large % for schools. It's like 10% or so on average.

How much federal funding do you think your average person gets in the US? With welfare, SS, EITC, etc. I would be shocked if it was as low as 10%
Posted by Cajun75
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Posted on 11/22/23 at 9:14 am to
My three boys have been homeschooled their whole lives. No problems with social awkwardness as my oldest two are in college and have performed in choir, singing tours, drama, etc. Both scored very well on their ACT. We don't need the government or a "village" as Hillary insisted.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/22/23 at 9:16 am to
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Federal funding of schools isn't really a large % for schools
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About 10%, which allows them to exert control over things they shouldnt.

The issue isnt the money, its the influence that comes with it
This post was edited on 11/22/23 at 9:17 am
Posted by Flats
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Posted on 11/22/23 at 9:16 am to
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How do homeschooled children get to experience a large population of other children on a daily basis?


A lot of them have groups they partner with to homeschool, and the kids can get further socialization from team sports and church groups.

There's no question that they miss a certain level of socialization, but depending on their school that may be a net positive; maybe a very large net positive. Most of the homeschool kids I've run across are products of their parents, and if the parents are normal the kids are normal as well. If the parents are weird....
Posted by leeman101
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 11/22/23 at 9:26 am to
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Public schools are, by and large, a function of state/local governments.


Seems with public schools there can be the one size fits all. Especially with smaller schools.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/22/23 at 9:27 am to
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A lot of them have groups they partner with to homeschool, and the kids can get further socialization from team sports and church groups.


Coops are popular among the granolas.

Id rather my kid learn alternative ideas than become a corporate drone. Thats what our schools are geared toward.

But keeping kids home to stay away from bad influence is wasted if the kids have a tv in the home and are allowed unabated social media use.


Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 11/22/23 at 6:24 pm to
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How do homeschooled children get to experience a large population of other children on a daily basis?



Recreational clubs? Scouting organizations? Youth sports leagues? Churches — or in your case — Satanic Temples?

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