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Is economic success a good indicator of intelligence?

Posted on 5/30/17 at 9:17 am
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
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Posted on 5/30/17 at 9:17 am
Is it?

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Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 5/30/17 at 9:17 am to
Yes. It is an indicator.

Note: population level correlate though.
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Posted by DuncanIdaho
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Posted on 5/30/17 at 9:18 am to
Not necessarily. Some people choose a profession for many reasons that may not be related to getting rich.
Posted by RoyMcavoy
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 5/30/17 at 9:29 am to
define intelligence and define economically successful.
Posted by AUstar
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Posted on 5/30/17 at 9:31 am to
On average it is, yes. There are exceptions, of course.
Posted by buckeye_vol
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Posted on 5/30/17 at 9:32 am to
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Not necessarily. Some people choose a profession for many reasons that may not be related to getting rich.
Of course. It's definitely imperfect, but income and wealth do correlate with intelligence, but like anything it's population level and can't be used for an indivdual.
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Posted by double d
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Posted on 5/30/17 at 9:33 am to
Not at all, look at all the idiot pro athletes that have tons of money and barely read on a 4th grade level.
Posted by Haughton99
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Posted on 5/30/17 at 9:35 am to
There are much better measures for intelligence but it's rare for someone who's not intelligent to build wealth from nothing.

Now if you are given a giant sum of money by your father and then you turn that into a fortune by growing it at roughly the same rate as the stock market and go bankrupt a few times along the way then you may or may not be intelligent.
Posted by Andychapman13
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 5/30/17 at 9:35 am to
EI (emotional intellegence) has been a better predictor of economic success over the last 20 years.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/30/17 at 9:39 am to
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Not at all, look at all the idiot pro athletes that have tons of money and barely read on a 4th grade level.


They are athletically intelligent.

Posted by guedeaux
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Posted on 5/30/17 at 9:40 am to
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Is economic success a good indicator of intelligence?


Tesla died broke. The Kardashians are loaded out the arse. So probably not.
Posted by Andychapman13
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Posted on 5/30/17 at 9:41 am to
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Now if you are given a giant sum of money by your father and then you turn that into a fortune by growing it at roughly the same rate as the stock market and go bankrupt a few times along the way then you may or may not be intelligent.


1. You're high jacking a forum not abut Trump, however:
2. The "stock market grew faster than Trump's wealth" is a piecemeal myth. He turned $1 million into $1.5 billion from '67-'87. Find another time in US history besides Carnegie, Rockwell, Vanderbilt that money has ever been made at such an acelerated rate. From '87-present his wealth has "only tripled", which had he put it in the S&P500 at the time would've grown at a much higher rate, however was a much riskier option back then. I can't say many people can fault a guy for being somewhat conservative with his investments once he got to $1.5 billion.
Posted by TBoy
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/30/17 at 9:41 am to
No, it isn't. Well, I guess you can say that economic success is a sign that you are not profoundly deficient. But if you are of average functional intelligence, you have at least the possibility of making some money.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 5/30/17 at 9:41 am to
No.
Posted by Machine
Earth
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Posted on 5/30/17 at 9:42 am to
yup

Dan Bilzerian is super smart
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/30/17 at 9:49 am to
They are correlated. So in general yes, but it's a generalization that may not be true in specific cases.

That's the nature of "indicators"

Posted by Haughton99
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Posted on 5/30/17 at 9:51 am to
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The "stock market grew faster than Trump's wealth" is a piecemeal myth. He turned $1 million into $1.5 billion from '67-'87. Find another time in US history besides Carnegie, Rockwell, Vanderbilt that money has ever been made at such an acelerated rate.


This is laughable false. You don't think there are a yuge about of examples of people turning far less than 1 million into 1.5 billion in 20 years? Come on!

quote:

From '87-present his wealth has "only tripled", which had he put it in the S&P500 at the time would've grown at a much higher rate, however was a much riskier option back then. I can't say many people can fault a guy for being somewhat conservative with his investments once he got to $1.5 billion.



You are the only person that's ever called Donald Trump a conservative investor. He's the exact opposite. I'd like to see the math on your claims also. Got a source?


Posted by Andychapman13
Member since Jun 2016
2728 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 9:58 am to
Where's your proof? We know who Trump is because of his wealth. No one knows who the loser who lives in a trailer park in Haughton is for a reason!
Posted by Haughton99
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/30/17 at 10:03 am to
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Where's your proof? We know who Trump is because of his wealth. No one knows who the loser who lives in a trailer park in Haughton is for a reason!


Proof of what? We know who Trump is because his desire to be famous is equal to his desire to be rich. There are people who have way more money than Trump that you've never heard of. His best skill is self promotion. That's why you've heard of him.

Personal attacks expose your weak mind, they don't help your argument.
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
15309 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 10:04 am to
Probably a better indicator of hard work and perseverance.
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