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re: Is anyone here not happy that Maduro was removed?
Posted on 1/4/26 at 9:40 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 1/4/26 at 9:40 am to SlowFlowPro
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We don't know if it's good for America yet.
This you haven’t the slightest idea of geopolitical strategy.
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Posted on 1/4/26 at 9:41 am to RelentlessAnalysis
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Both are cultures accustomed to (and mostly comfortable with) rule by a strongman, whether he calls himself a caudillo or a sheik.
Are you just ignoring that Venezuela was a Democracy for 40 years until oil prices collapsed and ultimately opened the door for Chavez?
Posted on 1/4/26 at 9:41 am to stout
Exactly! The Trump administration didn’t oversee a single one of those either obviously. This will be different because they refuse to fail.
Posted on 1/4/26 at 9:42 am to CDawson
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This you haven’t the slightest idea of geopolitical strategy.
This is just the beginning. You're planting a flag in Act 1 of a 10-Act play.
Posted on 1/4/26 at 9:42 am to jimmy the leg
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When did this happen.
If boots go on the ground it’s inevitable
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Or are you just being soft?
About not wanting to see a kid killed over oil profits?? Yes I’m soft i guess
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On a related note, which branch of the U.S. military did you serve in?
Army
10th Mountain Division
What branch did you serve in???
This post was edited on 1/4/26 at 9:49 am
Posted on 1/4/26 at 9:44 am to SlowFlowPro
There is a video of Hillary saying we came, we saw, he died. Talking about killing gadaffi. She was giddy. Libya collapsed after that. It had the highest standard of living in Africa before. Now a wasteland. Who knows what power vacuums leads too. Maduro was a bad guy.
Posted on 1/4/26 at 9:45 am to IvoryBillMatt
On the surface. Happy.
Concerned about what’s to come based on our history with this kind of thing.
Maybe this involved more careful planning than tariffs.
Concerned about what’s to come based on our history with this kind of thing.
Maybe this involved more careful planning than tariffs.
Posted on 1/4/26 at 9:48 am to stout
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Are you just ignoring that Venezuela was a Democracy for 40 years until oil prices collapsed and ultimately opened the door for Chavez?
Again, even this references the door opening for Chavez.
The religion part triggers people, so we can just look to the development of CA/SA, and it's similar to that of the ME. These countries are often structurally fricked up due to consolidation of power/resources at the top, from the Spanish onward. Resource-heavy with a history of dictatorial/authoritarian/oligarchal regimes, from the Spanish onward.
Just look at things like historical rates of private property ownership. A very small population own the land and resources. This leads to socialist-populist uprisings that consolidate power to punish them. This leads to rightwing uprisings to counter the Communists to punish them. Over and over and over again.
Just like the ME and their social-religious sects circulating power and punishment
Posted on 1/4/26 at 9:50 am to SlowFlowPro
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You're planting a flag in Act 1 of a 10-Act play.
I don’t think we will turn our back on Venezuela again after this, and our influence will be obvious over the next decade. Time will tell whether that ends up being positive or negative, but we can’t afford to let China and Russia have not just an ally so close to us, but one with such an abundance of oil.
China only has about 25 billion barrels of crude reserves. They needed Venezuela, and now that we control it, China will have to factor that in when considering the risks of invading Taiwan and facing sanctions.
That's not to even mention Iran and Russia and their interest in Venezuela
For those reasons, we can't let Venezuela fail like other regime changes due to the failure of the 70s CIA and the effects of the Cold War.
This post was edited on 1/4/26 at 9:52 am
Posted on 1/4/26 at 9:50 am to SlowFlowPro
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Then just look to our history of meddling in South/Central America
I’d argue that every military action taken by Trump has been done so with great concern for the failures of previous administrations. He’s earned some benefit of the doubt.
Posted on 1/4/26 at 9:50 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:This was 100% a globalist operation. And the fact that Trump led the charge should concern even the staunchest of cult members.
Expands globalism? Likely.
Posted on 1/4/26 at 9:51 am to TX Tiger
quote:Every fricking day with the buzzwords of stupidity.
cult members.
Posted on 1/4/26 at 9:53 am to IvoryBillMatt
SlowFlowMaduro, Roger, Toomercuk, powerbttom, tt9, lC14, roadgator, massholes, ronbots and the rest od the dems on here
Posted on 1/4/26 at 9:53 am to IvoryBillMatt
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IvoryBillMatt
Are you a lawyer?
Posted on 1/4/26 at 9:53 am to Jbird
quote:Well, maybe with the exception of one.
This was 100% a globalist operation. And the fact that Trump led the charge should concern even the staunchest of cult members.
Every fricking day with the buzzwords of stupidity.
This post was edited on 1/4/26 at 10:00 am
Posted on 1/4/26 at 9:54 am to IvoryBillMatt
You’re just mad no one believes your leftist drivel. You act like your post in other threads aren’t visible. You leftist have cried about taking Maduro out since it’s happened. If Joe Biden had the mental capacity to deliver this result, you and the other leftist on this board would be clapping like retarded seals. Y’all can’t be happy for America (or the Venezuelan people) since it was Trump who advanced the ball over one of your leftist overlords
Posted on 1/4/26 at 9:55 am to SlowFlowPro
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It turns out bad….
Would you not contribute much of that outcome to the Soviets…..who are now dead?
Posted on 1/4/26 at 9:55 am to IvoryBillMatt
I will know whether I’m happy after a while when I see if misery and suffering increases or decreases. Getting rid of him is good but the situation isn’t without risk of deteriorating, and it’s on the USA if it gets worse.
Posted on 1/4/26 at 9:56 am to IvoryBillMatt
It is too complex to know. Maduro is a bad guy and Venezuelans are happy he is gone. When it comes to regime change we are the bad guy. We outright admitted we are taking over the largest reserve of oil and I have to think minerals are next. For you hard-core Republicans you can bet China and Russia funnel a lot of money to dem campaigns now
Posted on 1/4/26 at 9:56 am to lepdagod
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About not wanting to see a kid killed over oil profits??
This happened in Venezuela?
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Army 10th Mountain Division
TYFYS
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What branch did you serve in???
Navy
Spruance can
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