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re: Ireland: EU's First Testing Ground for Digital ID & Wallet

Posted on 4/5/26 at 9:30 am to
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
117478 posts
Posted on 4/5/26 at 9:30 am to
King Charles V proposed a European Union about 500 years ago. It never happened because the countries of Europe realized that it was a power grab. Some things just don't change.
This post was edited on 4/5/26 at 9:31 am
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45871 posts
Posted on 4/5/26 at 9:30 am to
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which is actual evidence of you being emotionally unhinged.


Thanks for further proving my point.



Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
7700 posts
Posted on 4/5/26 at 9:34 am to
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Then the fed gov’t would have the ability to regulate the electoral college’s election, not the general public’s elections for their electors.

How the results go up the chain to final confirmation in Congress don't matter, and don't need to have securities confirming only Citizens voted for POTUS matter?
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
51674 posts
Posted on 4/5/26 at 9:40 am to
VPN to the rescue!
Posted by NorCali
Member since Feb 2015
1717 posts
Posted on 4/5/26 at 9:41 am to
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And this creates a massive demand for an easily accessible, national system of ID necessary to prove citizenship at a moment's notice.
But what if you leave your phone in the car and don’t feel like you should have to go get it?
Posted by tigerfan 64
in the LP
Member since Sep 2016
6418 posts
Posted on 4/5/26 at 9:47 am to
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Americans are willing to sacrifice a lot of privacy for feels and convenience.

La. Citizens of ALL races and ethnicities have used our IDs to vote for years already (and none of the poor blacks have complained).
How do you or SFP suppose the SAVE act will lead to any further or future degradation of privacy?
Great job of conflating and fear mongering to make sure our elections aren't safe guarded.
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
15048 posts
Posted on 4/5/26 at 10:01 am to
Who cares. My physical id was electronically printed, it’s not like the government doesn’t already have the data.

Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45871 posts
Posted on 4/5/26 at 10:03 am to
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Who cares. My physical id was electronically printed, it’s not like the government doesn’t already have the data.


State control vs. Federal control of this process.
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
15048 posts
Posted on 4/5/26 at 10:05 am to
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State control vs. Federal control of this process.


Fed already has my ss# and all info for tax purposes.

I really don’t care if they know my hair color and weight.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45871 posts
Posted on 4/5/26 at 10:07 am to
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I really don’t care if they know my hair color and weight.


But you should care if it's Washington DC that decides whether you're a "valid" citizen allowed access to your finances, or whether your vote is "valid"

Posted by da foozball
Member since Nov 2012
776 posts
Posted on 4/5/26 at 10:13 am to
To 4 cubs and SFP, my sincerest apologies that your candidate lost. If only we could have such an intelligent and strong leader such as kamala the black Indian. We could springboard into communism which we all know would elate your wildest fantasies
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
25099 posts
Posted on 4/5/26 at 10:50 am to
it's not tracked until you go to buy 1000 rounds of 45 ACP......then, oops, transaction denied!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476022 posts
Posted on 4/5/26 at 12:15 pm to
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State control vs. Federal control of this process.


I agree with you

My earlier point is showing how the SAVE Act cedes this and creates a large demand for this "national ID".

I don't think people have thought through the SAVE Act because they are their team support it and that's the end of the analysis. I know OP doesn't like the idea of this centralization of power, generally. But notice the apprehension with overlap with a team-based policy.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476022 posts
Posted on 4/5/26 at 12:16 pm to
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To 4 cubs and SFP, my sincerest apologies that your candidate lost. If only we could have such an intelligent and strong leader such as kamala

wut

You think a person advocating for states rights is likely to be a, checks notes , Kamala supporter?
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
74955 posts
Posted on 4/5/26 at 12:18 pm to
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Americans are willing to sacrifice a lot of privacy for feels and convenience.

I think it has been sufficiently proven that we're willing to sacrifice pretty much all of it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476022 posts
Posted on 4/5/26 at 12:26 pm to
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Ok...so how would you create a system that verifies citizenship at the ballot boxes?


You don't see how a digitized ID would do this?

How do you think paper/plastic ID can verify citizenship?
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89557 posts
Posted on 4/5/26 at 12:38 pm to
We already have that here.

La Wallet has my driver's license, hunting and fishing licenses, vehicle registration, concealed hand gun permit.


Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
10668 posts
Posted on 4/5/26 at 12:45 pm to

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If something like the SAVE Act passes here, something like this will follow.


…. are you trying to role play the boogeyman?
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
20187 posts
Posted on 4/5/26 at 12:46 pm to
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state-run app to store ID, birth certificate, driving license, and more.


I read somewhere only racism and bigots required ID?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476022 posts
Posted on 4/5/26 at 12:58 pm to
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are you trying to role play the boogeyman?


No. I'm connecting dots for people who claim to love to connect dots
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