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Posted on 4/7/26 at 11:43 am to geauxEdO
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Iran is the greatest unforced error of Trump’s career
you might be right. You are just as likely to be wrong. This conflict is ongoing, we wont know for certain if it was worth it (or not) until it's over and gains and losses can be calculated.
Most people would be better served by not participating in all of the fake outrage because Trump bad, at the end of the day, this is what people are really pearl clutching about.. Like him or hate him, there is a large part of society that is broken because of him, he will be gone in ~2 years and these lunatics will still be broken (forever). If all things that are currently happening in Iran would have happened during Obama's presidency, they would be adding him to Mt. Rushmore right now
Posted on 4/7/26 at 11:45 am to Megasaurus
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This conflict is ongoing, we wont know for certain if it was worth it (or not) until it's over and gains and losses can be calculated.
And honestly it will be years before we can really take a good look at it
Posted on 4/7/26 at 11:46 am to Powerman
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Just not the one that we're living in
We have had terrorist attacks in our country by Muslims. Of Course, Iran isn't going to claim direct involvement but their proxies do.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 11:47 am to Larry_Hotdogs
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Generations from now, the Khomeini family will be shitting teeth from getting hit so hard.
And someone else just like him will be in power, like it has been for thousands of years over there
Posted on 4/7/26 at 11:49 am to Hangit
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What, specifically in this information screamed this war is just recreational for DJT?
The Epstein files for one
Posted on 4/7/26 at 11:52 am to Powerman
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And honestly it will be years before we can really take a good look at it
that's the point..no reason for people to get riled up over something they dont have a full handle on..
Posted on 4/7/26 at 11:56 am to Powerman
I keep telling everyone this!!! This may be a horrible decision that Trump is fn up, or it may possibly be the greatest thing to happen to the planet in the end...We have no real idea and won't know probably for a couple of years! There's info hes working with that none of us know about and that info could be right, or it could be complete disinformation from Israel. NO WAY TO KNOW! Every normal person without top secret info is just a victim of misinformation from both sides and most of those 2 sides spewing it have no idea wtf really going on either.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 11:58 am to Flats
[img]He's absolutely doing that but it's not deliberate.[/img]
I'm finding out just how strong the Israeli lobby is. Not only does AIPAC refuse to register as a foreign lobby, not registering gives them the option of NEVER publicizing where they get money from. They are the only country that gets away with this.
I'm finding out just how strong the Israeli lobby is. Not only does AIPAC refuse to register as a foreign lobby, not registering gives them the option of NEVER publicizing where they get money from. They are the only country that gets away with this.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 12:08 pm to geauxEdO
Now, Trump has put himself in a difficult situation of whether or not to follow through on his threats. Totally manufactured by him. What are we doing here? What happened to America First?
I’ve defended Trump through a lot, but I think Iran is his fatal mistake. Venezuela and Operation Midnight Hammer made him overconfident with military ops.[/quote]
I can't believe the large number of up votes for this post. Don't you people know these fanatics lie and will stop at nothing. Look at all the underground compounds. If you do not think that these Islamic nut jobs need to be at least neutered if not eliminated you're sadly uninformed.
I’ve defended Trump through a lot, but I think Iran is his fatal mistake. Venezuela and Operation Midnight Hammer made him overconfident with military ops.[/quote]
I can't believe the large number of up votes for this post. Don't you people know these fanatics lie and will stop at nothing. Look at all the underground compounds. If you do not think that these Islamic nut jobs need to be at least neutered if not eliminated you're sadly uninformed.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 12:10 pm to Megasaurus
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that's the point..no reason for people to get riled up over something they dont have a full handle on..
In an unlikely worst case scenario we'll know if it was a terrible idea pretty fast
It might be looked at as just a moderately bad idea and there is the possibility it turns out to be a good idea. Both of these scenarios will take longer to figure out than the worst case scenario outcome.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 12:12 pm to geauxEdO
bro one of my biggest things with trump is he always avoided war
but at some point you cant keep kicking the can down the road and a nuclear power iran is absolutely a threat
and venezuala wasnt a mistake, it was one of his best moves
if we take out all infrastructure in iran and they are set back 15 years on nuclear ability it was anything but a mistake
and you do not understand the whole china angle
but at some point you cant keep kicking the can down the road and a nuclear power iran is absolutely a threat
and venezuala wasnt a mistake, it was one of his best moves
if we take out all infrastructure in iran and they are set back 15 years on nuclear ability it was anything but a mistake
and you do not understand the whole china angle
Posted on 4/7/26 at 12:17 pm to geauxEdO
Yea.. it's so bad that thousands of USA companies are feening at the mouth to soon be able to tap into a market of 93 million people to sell their widgets which they have never had access to before.
Total Trump Failure.
Total Trump Failure.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 12:20 pm to Timeoday
All of these points are tactical wins. The goal here is a strategic win: regime change with a Western friendly ally eventually controlling Iran. If this does not happen, there will be no wins to be had.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 12:23 pm to ItTakesAThief
What's right about all of this? I'm failing to see any advantages if we succeed or fail. If we go forward and make good on the current threat then we are no better than the types of people we claim not to be, perhaps worse. If we back down then as a nation we lose face and prestige. These were two options that were not on the game board 45 days ago. Options that did not need to be placed on the board.
If we succeed we waste blood and treasure. If we fail we have wasted blood and treasure.....and for what? So a TV character can say he has the big dick, now? Putin and Xi are laughing now. US getting done in by its greatest ally and the Persians. Xi wins by default and Putin could end up forcing terms on Ukraine and Eastern Europe.
If we succeed we waste blood and treasure. If we fail we have wasted blood and treasure.....and for what? So a TV character can say he has the big dick, now? Putin and Xi are laughing now. US getting done in by its greatest ally and the Persians. Xi wins by default and Putin could end up forcing terms on Ukraine and Eastern Europe.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 1:08 pm to Hangit
quote:Would be super cool if they told us the reasons, but alas, they haven't and folks like you just blindly go with it.
How did you gain access to all of the information put before DJT and his group of experts?
Oh right, Trump told us Iran was "2 weeks away" from having a nuke. Nevermind they were years away BEFORE we "obliterated" their facilities. Forget that, just believe they were 2 weeks away just cause Trump said it!
quote:Probably the part where Trump can't tell us why we're in it and how this is America first. Yea, that part.
What, specifically in this information screamed this war is just recreational for DJT?
Posted on 4/7/26 at 1:09 pm to geauxEdO
quote:Just blindly believe, do not question anything. That's what some folks are arguing for here.
how silly of me to question our government! i’m sorry, i will not offer my opinion and will assume our leaders are making the right decisions behind closed doors.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 1:10 pm to FLTech
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Yea.. it's so bad that thousands of USA companies are feening at the mouth to soon be able to tap into a market of 93 million people to sell their widgets which they have never had access to before.
Total Trump Failure.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 1:15 pm to TenWheelsForJesus
quote:They'll just build them back. We did not institute a regime change. We killed 1 leader, the regime is still there with the same goals, so without boots on the ground and a couple of decades facilitating actual regime change, what makes you believe Iran just won't build it right back?
The elimination of weapons facilities is nothing?
quote:Same question. if the war is nearing an end as Trump keeps saying, how exactly did we end this ability?
Ending the ability of Iran to support terrorists across the ME is nothing?
quote:Or...you're making things up that aren't happening, short of years and years and trillions of dollars with US troops in Iran hoping for the best with an actual regime change.
I bet you don't even realize you're narrowing the scope to ignore vital outcomes just so your dumb argument makes sense. That would require thought instead of an emotional reaction.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 1:17 pm to Tigergreg
quote:7 month ago, US intelligence said they were "years away" from having a nuke, and AFTER that, we "obliterated" their facilities...
What do you consider an imminent threat? 2 weeks away, 2 months, 2 years, Inquiring minds want to know. The Iranians told Steve Witkoff they had enough 60% enriched uranium to build 11 nuclear bombs. Should be just have just brushed it off?
So how was a nuke an imminent threat exactly?
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