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re: Iran Conflict: 1/6 8:30 pm - Trump Drafting Sanctions on Iraq

Posted on 1/3/20 at 12:11 am to
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44273 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 12:11 am to
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I don’t think the Sunnis are in a position to fight one. They just don’t have the numbers.


80% of the world's Muslims are Sunni. I have a feeling, just as in the 1st Iraqi Civil War, that outside support would be forthcoming.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 12:18 am to
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you would think they would invest some of those stacks of coins on carrier maintenance. Got to cheaper than towing your navy from port to port.


The Kuznetsov design was flawed for the start. And it was badly maintained for much of its life.

Making matters worse, the Russians stopped building large surface warships in the 90s, and spent what little money they had on their submarines instead.

It was a prudent choice. But they lost the skills they need to build and maintain ships like that.

They should abandon it. But I assume pride prevents them.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 12:21 am to
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80% of the world's Muslims are Sunni. I have a feeling, just as in the 1st Iraqi Civil War, that outside support would be forthcoming.


Sunnis are just a third of the total population in Iraq though.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38453 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 12:23 am to
How much is Iran paying you per post?
Posted by RileyTime
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Oct 2008
7108 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 12:37 am to
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By stepping away, the balance of power equalizes, making conflict riskier, and thus less likely.


Are you seriously treating the Middle East like 3 fighting siblings in a 3-way "This is our fighting shirt" until they make up?
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
15294 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 12:39 am to
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And the Navy didn’t have a lot of faith that that would work. But it was their best option.


Pretty sure yamato said that the only chance they had was completely destroying the entire aircraft carrier fleet, which was why he was extremely disappointed in the attack on Pearl Harbor because the fleet was out of the harbor.

ETA: every other old type conservative navy person was not excited about the move, but for other reasons (if I remember correctly)
This post was edited on 1/3/20 at 12:41 am
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65798 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 12:45 am to
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Premium Member
Member since Nov 2011
42053 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 12:53 am to
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#BREAKING: Iranian F-14 fighter jets ordered airborne and are now reportedly patrolling Iran’s western borders LINK
This post was edited on 1/3/20 at 12:54 am
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
18742 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 1:04 am to
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Pretty sure yamato said that the only chance they had was completely destroying the entire aircraft carrier fleet, which was why he was extremely disappointed in the attack on Pearl Harbor because the fleet was out of the harbor.


IIRC, he was pissed they didn’t destroy the oil tanks and support infrastructure on shore. Pearl Harbor would have been out of commission supporting the pacific fleet in the war much much longer.
This post was edited on 1/3/20 at 1:06 am
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
18742 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 1:05 am to
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BREAKING: Iranian F-14 fighter jets ordered airborne and are now reportedly patrolling Iran’s western borders LINK


Translation: “Look! We’re doing something to protect our country”
Posted by BIGFOOD
Member since Jun 2011
13031 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 1:14 am to
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Iranian F-14 fighter jets ordered airborne and are now reportedly patrolling Iran’s western borders


F-14? Isn't that the Top Gun jet from the olden days?

I bet them Iranian pilots are treading lightly
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26715 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 1:43 am to
They can hardly keep them in the air. Those are F14A's from the Shah's days in power and they don't have any spare parts.

Unless they did some midnight auto parts runs from the Boneyard when there were some F14's there.
This post was edited on 1/3/20 at 1:46 am
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
15294 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 2:09 am to
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he was pissed they didn’t destroy the oil tanks and support infrastructure on shore.


I thought that was Nimitz that was super excited that didnt happen?

I always get my Pearl Harbor history confused,so excuse me if I am remembering wrong. It's been quite a long time since I've stayed at a Holiday inn.

I joke
Posted by GeauxLaMike77
Madisonville
Member since Jun 2019
72 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 2:41 am to
You are a special kind of stupid. I’m sorry for your loss, you twisted piece of sh$t
This post was edited on 1/3/20 at 3:11 am
Posted by Possumslayer
Pascagoula
Member since Jan 2018
6474 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 4:22 am to
Has Bolton said anything stupid yet?
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 5:18 am to
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The Shia have poured in from the border pretty much unchecked


You are acting like there weren't Iraqi Shia before. Southern Iraqi Shia and Persian Shia have had a long relationship, dating back to the Safavid conversion. But Iraq has always had a sizable Shia population. The notion that the Shia migrated recently is nonsensical.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
35930 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 6:14 am to
Ooh! Pelosi is starting to speak and wants details ASAP!
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22628 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 6:25 am to
"US Kills Qassem Soleimani, Iranian Quds Commander and PMF Chief al-Muhandis": first time I ever hear of these termites. What's the big deal? You start shite - you get shite. What is so complicated about that?
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
20309 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 6:34 am to
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Unless they did some midnight auto parts runs from the Boneyard when there were some F14's there.


One has to wonder if, along with the pallets of cash, that spare parts weren't given also (maybe not at the same time, but you get the meaning)
Posted by Armymann50
Playing with my
Member since Sep 2011
22394 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 7:09 am to
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confirmed the attack
time to get out the muskets and getum cleaned up.
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