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re: Indians- WTH is their problem?& what would be their vision of this land w/o white man

Posted on 10/13/25 at 6:16 pm to
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 6:16 pm to
Relitigating the past or anything for that matter is a leftist practice. It’s for people who can’t deal with reality, want to tear down history and create another one so they can control people. Hail Columbus, frick the left
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 6:16 pm to
No taxes. No debt. Medicine man free. Man spend days hunting and fishing.
Posted by AquaAg84
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 6:17 pm to
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"Their land" is a fallacy no matter who is laying claim. Land is only "yours" as long as you can keep and defend it.

Or, in today's time, as long as international support is on your side.


A concept lost to most libs pushing the 'stolen land' schtick. Who btw never offer to 'give back' the land they occupy to the natives. I unfortunately have been privy to a number of meetings/functions that were started with a 'land acknowledgment' statement referencing the native peoples of the area, stating how much they are respected and revered, etc. All this is based on a group out of Canada and their map below - but the issue is that their map is just one point in time. For example, when European settlers came to central and west Texas, the Comanches had driven out tribes such as the Apache - which is not at all reflected in the map. All virtue signaling BS by libs just like so many other things.

This post was edited on 10/13/25 at 6:23 pm
Posted by Bamanjo
Member since Sep 2025
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 6:17 pm to
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Relitigating the past or anything for that matter is a leftist practice.


I’ll keep that in mind next time I see a “the south will rise again” flag
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 6:18 pm to
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Caste based discrimination and insular, nepotistic practices in hiring and management.

Indians pretty much commit bust outs like in The Sopranos to a business. One of them gets put into a decision making role in the company and its all over. The place then is "busted out" to serve as nothing more than a way to enrich Indians and friends/family of said Indians, specifically those in the same caste or village from India.

They purposely discriminate against non Indians in the hiring process. They only hire other Indians. If they do decide to interview a white, it will be a humiliation ritual only where they seek to belittle and embarrass the candidate without ever having any intention of moving the candidate forward. I've experienced this myself many times, sadly.

As far as non Indians who already work for the company, Indians are well known for stack ranking, a process where Indians band together and all give bad performance reviews to non Indians and automatic high ratings to Indians, and when it comes time for workforce reduction, the non Indians are let go because they have the worst ratings in the stack. This is what led to me being laid off at my last job, all the Indians stack ranked me low despite me winning employee of the quarter in the most recent quarter. 6 weeks after shaking the CEO's hand on stage for winning the award I was laid off.

I will never ever work for an Indian ever again. They are the worst managers to work for, period. Nothing you do is good enough and its as if their only role is to prove how superior they are to you.


Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 6:21 pm to
What’s so funny?

His personal account rings true.

“Tribalism” in a tribe with victim mentality? No way!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463788 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 6:22 pm to
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What’s so funny?

Gnug only read the title and gave a thesis on dot Indians and not feather Indians
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85094 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 6:25 pm to
The first ever genocide was by what we call indigenous people.


Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
21294 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 6:28 pm to
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Gnug only read the title and gave a thesis on dot Indians and not feather Indians


Sounds like many reservation Indians I’ve come across. The ones with casinos.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 6:35 pm to
Zero correlation
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 6:57 pm to
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I however think that there is nothing wrong with how the Indians lived their life.


I completely agree. Id even argue the average life of an indian was better than a serf in Europe. Much like the circle of life with animals things have their time, then come to an end. Having a continent to live the primitive life just was never sustainable in the human story.

My ancestors were most certainly, mostly Celtic...but when the Anglo-Saxons conquered them, they had to change their way of life.
Posted by Kjnstkmn
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 7:03 pm to
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61605 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 7:05 pm to
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Their societies were far more advanced than you might think




In what way?
Posted by Thundercles
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 7:18 pm to
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I always wanted to ask the Indians, what they think this country would look like if the white man hadn’t settled & built the greatest country on earth.

I think the Indians would have us still living in teepees & skinning buffaloes for clothes.

Theses people were literally living in teepees and living primitive lives.

Do they think that had the whiteman not come that they would have held onto this land of theirs? That no one else would have come and taken it from them?

Do they think that they would have developed this land and brought industry and prosperity to it?


What exactly were they going to do with “their land”?


I'm not one to defend the conquered, but they were going to do exactly what you described. They would have lived a lifestyle they wanted, even if that seems simple or primitive to others.

They begrudge white people because they got conquered out of their land and got forced onto much shittier land. They had no interest in developing industry and prosperity. They were prosperous in their own eyes, even if that doesn't align to modern standards.

Sure, the world was expanding and they would have been conquered regardless. But they can still be pissed about it. If someone with more guns kicked you out of your house and said you could go live in the hood, you'd be upset too.

Not saying they have some inherent right to it, but I have provided the answers to your questions.
Posted by Kjnstkmn
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 7:45 pm to
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
21294 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 7:47 pm to
The Indians started trading with the Europeans almost immediately. They even fought each other over trade with the Europeans, especially for guns and other metal items. Heck they nearly caused the beaver population to go extinct.

Some tribes practically disappeared, not because they were conquered, but because they eventually adopted many of the frontier European culture, just as many Europeans adopted Indian ways. They the. Intermarried.

Louisiana Cajuns, and other groups including Germans and Africans melted together with the Indians in many communities.
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 7:54 pm to
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No they didn't. The horse was brought over by the Spanish. They were still walking everywhere


The first tribes that saw Spaniards with horses thought they were big, magic dogs. Per a sign on the road leading into Great Sand Dunes NP. Took a pic this summer:



Also I didn’t expect this thread to be about Utes and Apaches, but rather Jeets and Patels.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Member since Jan 2025
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 7:56 pm to
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They would have lived a lifestyle they wanted, even if that seems simple or primitive to others.


Same problem as everyone else... plenty of white people would love to be self sustaining and left the hell alone- government says no.

Indians get to vote in our elections, do we get to vote in theirs?

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They were prosperous in their own eyes, even if that doesn't align to modern standards.


Are they now? They've seem to lose the taste for that lifestyle.

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But they can still be pissed about it. If someone with more guns kicked you out of your house and said you could go live in the hood, you'd be upset too.


Naw, we'd gentrify the frick outta that hood. Been done before.

Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 8:07 pm to
To quote Hondo as the Comanche ride off in defeat:

"Its the end of a way of life. Shame, its a good way"

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think the Indians would have us still living in teepees & skinning buffaloes for clothes.


Modern medicine is great and all, but let's all just admit that we are tiny little useless cogs in a behemoth machine. The Indians were the only cog in their individual machine. They were truly free men. We live with the illusion of freedom.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 8:08 pm to
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They had horses and that was it.


You need to read a history book bro.
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