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Income-based speeding tickets, should we?
Posted on 3/6/20 at 9:27 pm
Posted on 3/6/20 at 9:27 pm
Finland and others are doing it
Not that I envy other countries, we’re the best in the world, but I like this idea.. reminds me of a flat-tax.
Hypothetically, me and LeBron James both get speeding tickets... mine would be $450 and his would be $10,000
Not that I envy other countries, we’re the best in the world, but I like this idea.. reminds me of a flat-tax.
Hypothetically, me and LeBron James both get speeding tickets... mine would be $450 and his would be $10,000
Posted on 3/6/20 at 9:28 pm to pwejr88
So the leeches get a pass again?
Posted on 3/6/20 at 9:28 pm to pwejr88
Why should he get punished more than you for the same offense?
Posted on 3/6/20 at 9:33 pm to SSpaniel
quote:Criminal penalties should punish and/or deter crime.
Why should he get punished more than you for the same offense?
A $100 ticket serves neither purpose vis-a-vis a billionaire.
Not sure I like the concept, but it does make a certain amount of sense from a pragmatic/utilitarian perspective.
This post was edited on 3/6/20 at 10:31 pm
Posted on 3/6/20 at 9:39 pm to AggieHank86
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but it does make a certain amount of sense from a pragmatic/utilitarian perspective.
It's pragmatic to run every freaking speeding ticket through the IRS? It's either that or you have some Federal Government Salary card you have to carry on you when driving, just like a license. Because that should be Floyd the deputy's business when he stops you for going 39 in a 35.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 9:39 pm to AggieHank86
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A $100 ticket serves neither purpose vis-a-vis a billionaire.
Yeah... I sort of get that. A $10 ticket could pose a HUGE problem to someone who is broke, while you could fine Bezos $1 million and it wouldn't phase him.
I still don't care for the idea, though. Seems like you are "charging" rich people more simply because they are rich.
Maybe some sort of "if you can't afford to pay your ticket, there are plenty of weeds that need pulling" thing might work.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 9:41 pm to Flats
IF you see an expensive car speeding just follow them bc u know they will get pulled over for the bigger ticket lol
Posted on 3/6/20 at 9:42 pm to AggieHank86
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Criminal penalties should punish and/or deter crime. A $100 ticket serves neither purpose vis-a-vis a billionaire. Not sure I like the concept, but it does make a certain amount of sense from a pragmatic/utilitarian perspective.
How about from an “equal application of the law” perspective? Commie.
This post was edited on 3/6/20 at 9:44 pm
Posted on 3/6/20 at 9:45 pm to pwejr88
If they focused as much effort on real crimes as they do speeding tickets I may be willing to accept this.
But the current efficiency of law enforcement is so arse backwards that I could see a push for this but with some kickback added in where the officer writing tickets gets direct compensation per ticket. That way we will really make our highways safe!
But the current efficiency of law enforcement is so arse backwards that I could see a push for this but with some kickback added in where the officer writing tickets gets direct compensation per ticket. That way we will really make our highways safe!
Posted on 3/6/20 at 9:46 pm to pwejr88
This already exist. In most, if not all jurisdictions, you can appear before a judge and provide evidence that you are in financial hardship and get your ticket reduced. It's not a guarantee, but its a more practical method than spending time looking up ticketed individual's income or assets.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 9:47 pm to pwejr88
Are we going to apply this to other crimes or just tickets? Does a billionaire that gets caught stealing $1000 get 10 years in jail vs the homeless drug addict getting 10 days? Does the wall street banker get 10 years for a gram of coke vs a minimum wage employee getting 6 months? If you want to encourage people to remain poor government leeches, this is a great way to do it.
Should we charge people that make more money higher insurance premiums for the same vehicle too? How else can we punish prosperity in this country? Let's charge rich people more for the same food. If you make over $60k, then you have to pay 50% more for gas.
This is a dumb idea.
If you want to be able to speed and not have it affect your budget, then make more money.
Should we charge people that make more money higher insurance premiums for the same vehicle too? How else can we punish prosperity in this country? Let's charge rich people more for the same food. If you make over $60k, then you have to pay 50% more for gas.
This is a dumb idea.
If you want to be able to speed and not have it affect your budget, then make more money.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 9:49 pm to MLSter
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But the current efficiency of law enforcement is so arse backwards that I could see a push for this but with some kickback added in where the officer writing tickets gets direct compensation per ticket. That way we will really make our highways safe!
True
Posted on 3/6/20 at 9:50 pm to AggieHank86
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but it does make a certain amount of sense from a pragmatic/utilitarian perspective.
Only if you believe people should be treated differently under the law just because of how much money they have. It's this kind of thinking that will allow some people to say that whites should have harsher penalties because of their inherent privilege.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 9:58 pm to MLSter
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I could see a push for this but with some kickback added in where the officer writing tickets gets direct compensation per ticket.
Ummm...if L.A.C.E. still exists in La, that's basically what it was. Local law enforcement patrolled interstates, writing speeding tickets, DWI, drug offenses, etc for state paid overtime. Officers or deputies working LACE had a minimum number of citations/arrests they had to make per shift to remain eligible to participate.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:13 pm to TidenUP
Oh yeah, it's still going. They had to revise the guidelines not too far back though because there were some troopers blatantly cleaning house, comically overdoing it with the overtime income. Had to cap the number of LACE tickets that any one participant could write for a given period.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:14 pm to pwejr88
So is it okay if cops start just targeting luxury automobiles to pull over? I mean why pull over a Honda Civic when you can nail somebody is an S550 Benz.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:21 pm to ABearsFanNMS
Their most productive strategy is concentrating efforts in the morning hours when working folks who for obvious reasons are more likely to pay are on their way to work.
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