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re: In Matter of Days, Outlook Shifts From Solid Growth to Recession Risk

Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:32 am to
Posted by stout
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Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:32 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:34 am to
OP is certainly not a Dem. He's old school.

He and I battled Dems (when we had some on here) on here in the past in economic discussions.
This post was edited on 4/6/25 at 7:35 am
Posted by cameronml
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:34 am to
Reverse the images, replace Dems with Republicans/Trumpers, and you’d be describing the current situation.
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:35 am to
Posts a graph covering a full year versus two days and thinks he has a gotcha.
Posted by Lsudx256
DFW
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Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:36 am to
Is the author of that article the same one that said ice caps will all be melted in 5 years? It’s amazing how many “experts” there are out there that warn us of every move Trump makes.
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
25316 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:38 am to
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OP is certainly not a Dem. He's old school.

He and I battled Dems (when we had some on here) on here in the past in economic discussions.


I am not, nor have I ever been a Democrat, brother. I know you aren’t either. But hook, line, and sinker behind everything any politician is doing is a level of surrendering independent thought that I will never do.
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:40 am to
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Is the author of that article the same one that said ice caps will all be melted in 5 years? It’s amazing how many “experts” there are out there that warn us of every move Trump makes.


Did you just completely fabricate a fact and use it to support some preconceived notion in your own mind?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:43 am to
"Vaporizing"

That sounds permanent. Because stock prices never ever ever go back up.
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
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Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:45 am to
the Wall Street media ….. showing that they are no different than the MSM ……


Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:45 am to
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In order to avoid likely recession, the US is going to rely on the consumer to buy us out of it while paying higher prices and having less buying power.
First off recession is not """likely""".
It is a certain possibility, but not yet a probability.

Second, Trump is in a race to get interest rates down d/t short sighted financing policies of the previous Admin. Otherwise we'll be unnecessarily hemorrhaging taxpayer money just to pay lenders.

Powell has not yet signaled any willingness to cooperate with rate lowering. But lower rates are critical from a budgetary standpoint. So Trump is doing what he can to knock the socks off of inflation to push the Fed. All that comes atop a market that was overheated for most of 2024. Meanwhile, the market conniptions are in response to fractional cost increases (tariffs) involving 11% ($3.3T) of our economy.

Logically, the selloff was overdone at half our total decline. However, the market was "priced to perfection," so it was looking for a pullback excuse. We could be near a bottom, though with the amount of investor "fear" present, we'll need a more obvious capitulation.

Addressing retail investor rationality in all of this, the stock market is the only market where when things go on sale, buyers run away screaming for the exits.
Posted by dickkellog
little rock
Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:52 am to
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Of course you do, Dick, if the president of the United States completely changes the world in which you economically operate in. You must have been a shite broker.


well i did it for 21 years so i must have been pretty good at it!



a recession as you know is defined as two consecutive quarters of negative growth we're not even close. secondly you have to ask yourself did our current economy justify record highs on the dow and s&p? my answer to that would have been no, so you look at this as a correction. anyone with even an ounce of common sense, which excludes you, sees this for what it is a welcomed buying opportunity.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 4/6/25 at 7:58 am to
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Whether the real economy will follow is impossible to know.



Stopped reading after this.

Posted by SlayTime
Member since Jan 2025
3688 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 8:02 am to
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Let’s get the typical out of the way: - TDS - Liberal, keep melting - WSJ is part of the problem - Globalists will do anything to protect their scheme - Whatever personal attacks I can’t conceive of right now - But Biden, but Kamala, but Democrats


You are in a serious state of melt. Are you a Boomer?
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85626 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 8:02 am to
quote:

Reverse the images, replace Dems with Republicans/Trumpers, and you’d be describing the current situation.



Actually we wouldn’t.

quote:

Seventeen winners of the Nobel Prize in economics sign letter in support of the President’s Build Back Better package



What’s happening rt now is a complete 180 from the media.








Posted by roguetiger15
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 4/6/25 at 8:17 am to
Can you critically think at all?

Why do companies hire additional workers?

It’s NOT because they anticipate a recession

Posted by trader_tiger83
Member since Dec 2012
1416 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 8:19 am to
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The stock market is not the economy. End of discussion


The stock market runs ahead of the economy. The actual economy will feel these effects in the coming months unless something drastically changes on the tariff and government spending front. This is like a tsunami where the water gets sucked back out to sea and people are picking up seashells on the beach like idiots.
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
25316 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 8:22 am to
quote:

Can you critically think at all?

Why do companies hire additional workers?

It’s NOT because they anticipate a recession


Right, because those hires that were in that report happened after Trump announced these tariffs on Wednesday.
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
13623 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 8:23 am to
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CollegeFBRules


Wow. This is an impressive melt. This is what... day 3 of your continued melt?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295236 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 8:23 am to
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Why do companies hire additional workers?

It’s NOT because they anticipate a recession


Or they do anticipate a recession and are trying to get as much product out before then as possible.
Posted by theCrusher
Slidell
Member since Nov 2007
1566 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 8:24 am to
We were told the last 4 years the president doesn’t control the economy.
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