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re: In-Game Thread- Justice Department IG Testifies on FISA Abuse Allegations

Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:21 am to
Posted by Contra
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:21 am to
This is starting to not look good for Dems and FBI.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:21 am to
Just tuned in

The people saying Horowitz is being Lenient are simply not watching this

He just took a steaming dump on Comey’s claim of vindication

Are the wet rags watching this?
This post was edited on 12/11/19 at 10:22 am
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:21 am to
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Why did Horowitz even make a judgement on the predication of Crossfire Hurricane and political bias?


Hah! Lindsey just asked him if there was biased and Horowitz admitted he has no way of knowing if there was bias or not (which is contrary to what he stated in the report).
Posted by Bunyan
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:21 am to
Horowitz just said straight up that they misled the court

Posted by Centinel
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:22 am to
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Are the wet rags watching this?


The Hanging Eeyores are out in full force today.

Posted by Bard
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:23 am to
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He just took a steaming dump on Comey’s claim of vindication


Comey is out asking trees for guidance on how to respond.

Posted by Contra
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:23 am to
quote:

Just tuned in

The people saying Horowitz is being Lenient are simply not watching this

He just took a steaming dump on Comey’s claim of vindication

Are the wet rags watching this?


I guess not, he is destroying them.
Posted by Kcrad
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:23 am to
Tell me about the guy who altered the email from the CIA...


This should be required viewing for anyone of voting age.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:23 am to
I’m still not understanding the no finding of bias angle. There was clear bias.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:23 am to
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I guess not, he is destroying them.


he really is. i am a bit shocked
Posted by DreauxB2015
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:23 am to
Bias , Bias , Bias everywhere ....


Horowitz : Muh no political bias anywhere



WTF?
Posted by Kcrad
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:24 am to
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Horowitz just said straight up that they misled the court


That's illegal, right???
Posted by Centinel
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:24 am to
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I’m still not understanding the no finding of bias angle.


The opening of the investigation was not biased.

How it was handled after it was opened, specifically once the Steele Dossier entered the picture, was big time biased.

Again, the media is running with the first part, and ignoring the second.

Posted by Contra
Member since Oct 2016
9025 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:26 am to
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I’m still not understanding the no finding of bias angle. There was clear bias.


It probably went down like this:

Horowitz: Were you bias?

FBI: No, we were not bias

Horowitz: Okay

He basically has no power to actually find out if this was true or not because of how limited his scope was. Durham can actually track people down.
Posted by Bunyan
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:26 am to
Clinesmith doctored an email critical to the FISA

Ummm….will he be indicted?
Posted by HailToTheChiz
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:26 am to
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This post was edited on 12/11/19 at 10:35 am
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:27 am to
Horowitz just answers the "how".

How the FBI conducted the investigation from July 31, 2016 until the expiration date of the 3rd FISA warrant renewal.

There are many frick ups in the "how" by the FBI as documented by the OIG.

Durham's job is the "why".

Why did the FBI start this investigation. Answering the why leads you to the predicate of the investigation.

The predicate for the investigation should be the first paragraph of every report that starts an investigation.

We still don't know why the FBI started the investigation. (We know why, we just don't know the FBI's reason why.)
Posted by Kcrad
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:28 am to
IG just said he would NOT have entered the original FISA warrant.
Posted by GumboPot
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138911 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:28 am to
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Clinesmith doctored an email critical to the FISA

Ummm….will he be indicted?



Just an underling that was acting on his own.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:29 am to
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holy shite a CIA spook doctored an email between folks to make it seem like they had evidence


Wrong. An FBI lawyer doctored the email from the CIA spook that cleared Carter Page's Russian contact as being work Page did for the CIA.
This post was edited on 12/11/19 at 10:30 am
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