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In 1986 Politics Was a Different World -- The Big Bob Packwood Tax Reform

Posted on 6/11/26 at 3:17 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 3:17 pm
It's not often I see an article by Art Laffer and Stephen Moore

quote:

The Big Bob Packwood Tax Reform
The Oregon senator, who died Saturday at 93, closed loopholes and cut the top rate to 28%.

By Arthur Laffer and Stephen Moore
June 10, 2026


Forty years ago this month, the Tax Reform Act of 1986 was heading for passage in the Senate. The act defined the Reagan revolution by lowering the highest personal income-tax rate—which had been 70% in 1981—to 28%. The corporate rate was slashed from 46% to 34%. The number of individual tax brackets went from 14 to two. When the dust settled, there were two tax rates: 28% and 15%. Everything was “paid for” by nixing exceptions in the tax code covering everything from real estate to unemployment benefits and racehorses to solar energy.

Sen. Bob Packwood carried the bill to victory. Packwood, who died Saturday at 93, was chairman of the Senate Finance Committee. As Congress dithered, he took charge, sought out sensible Democrats like Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan of New York, Rep. Dick Gephardt of Missouri and House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Dan Rostenkowski of Illinois, and reached a deal. New Jersey Sen. Bill Bradley, a Finance Committee member, recalled his colleague’s work for the bill with these words: “Bob Packwood cajoled, threatened and persuaded others on the committee to embrace it, outmaneuvering senators who wanted higher rates and real estate lobbyists eager to protect tax shelters.”

“Let’s go radical,” Packwood told his Democratic colleagues, who joined him in cleaning out the stables of the tax code and using the savings to slash the tax rate even lower than the 35% that President Reagan had sought. Lobbyists gave up trying to fight the bill because of its epic proportions. The bill passed the Senate 97-3. “Yes” votes included Ted Kennedy, Joe Biden and Al Gore.

Yes, nearly every Democrat voted for a 28% tax rate.
...

The law, on top of the 1981 Reagan tax cuts, made America a magnet for capital from around the globe. It helped launch the greatest period of wealth creation in world history over the succeeding 40 years. The Dow Jones Industrial Average closed at 1,808.35 on Oct. 22, 1986, the day Reagan signed the law. Today it is over 50,000.

Tax revenue exploded with lower tax rates. The share of taxes paid by the wealthy rose as they lost their favorite tax shelters and instead put their money to productive use. Economist Martin Feldstein, who served as chairman of the White House’s Council of Economic Advisers (1982-84), wrote on these pages in 2011 that “actual experience after 1986 showed an enormous rise in taxes paid, particularly by those who experienced the greatest reductions in marginal tax rates.”
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Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 3:23 pm to
*sigh*

back when 99.99999% of dems weren't certifably insane
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 3:28 pm to
The kneejerk is to blame Democrats for being hyper-partisan, but the deficit spending issue has become so great that doing so is just a distraction.

Adjusting for inflation, deficit spending is now over 6x what they had in 1981 and increasing. We're at a point now where most of the years since the GFC have seen deficit spending outpacing the dollar amount of GDP growth for that same year. This means that if we balanced the budget, we would go into a deep recession, possibly a depression.

As time goes on, the only agreement Republicans and Democrats in Congress are going to have is raising the debt ceiling so they can keep spending insane amounts of money to keep themselves in office.
Posted by Sweep Da Leg
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 3:35 pm to
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The Dow Jones Industrial Average closed at 1,808.35 on Oct. 22, 1986, the day Reagan signed the law. Today it is over 50,000


All that was/is great and true but let’s be honest about the DOW. It’s this high for a large part because of inflation
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 3:38 pm to
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The kneejerk is to blame Democrats for being hyper-partisan
Wait!
WTF?

"The kneejerk is to blame Democrats"?

Calling out BAMN is "kneejerk"?

Identifying a weaponization of the DOJ is "kneejerk"?

Identifying hyperpartisan support of an actual Nazi tattooed misogynist is "kneejerk"?

Calling out actual communist advocates as hyperpartisan is "kneejerk"?

Nah, my knees aren't jerking.
Posted by 14&Counting
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 3:42 pm to
Back when Democrats were reasonable
Posted by lsuconnman
Baton rouge
Member since Feb 2007
5355 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 3:48 pm to
quote:

All that was/is great and true but let’s be honest about the DOW. It’s this high for a large part because of inflation


I doubt that. If the Dow was still composed of Westinghouse, US Steel, IBM, Sears, Eastman Kodak, etc. it would be pretty ugly.
Posted by dickkellog
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Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 3:50 pm to
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All that was/is great and true but let’s be honest about the DOW. It’s this high for a large part because of inflation


did your mother drop you on your head as a child?

look boy i was a broker from 1983 until 2004 the trading range of the djia was 1700 to 1900 in 1986, 1700 adjusted for inflation would be 5200 not 50,000

congratulations kid you're an idiot.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 3:51 pm to
quote:

All that was/is great and true but let’s be honest about the DOW. It’s this high for a large part because of inflation
The DJIA is up 13x in real terms. With dividends reinvested the real total return is closer to ~7–9% annualized, compounding to somewhere in the range of 15–20x.

In that timeframe, US markets far outperformed the world 2-3x Europe, 8x Japan, >2x China (investable)
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 3:55 pm to
quote:

did your mother drop you on your head as a child?

look boy i was a broker from 1983 until 2004 the trading range of the djia was 1700 to 1900 in 1986, 1700 adjusted for inflation would be 5200 not 50,000

congratulations kid you're an idiot.
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dickkellog
Dang! dickkellog, you were far more 'meat' than 'cornflakes' in that post.
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 3:59 pm to
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As Congress dithered, he took charge, sought out sensible Democrats like Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan of New York, Rep. Dick Gephardt of Missouri and House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Dan Rostenkowski of Illinois, and reached a deal. New Jersey Sen. Bill Bradley, a Finance Committee member, recalled his colleague’s work for the bill


Four far-right bigots in 2026.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 5:19 pm to
quote:

Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan of New York
quote:

Far-right bigot in 2026
Sad truth!
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 5:47 pm to
Crushed the commercial and investment real estate market.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 6/12/26 at 5:52 am to
quote:

Wait!
WTF?

"The kneejerk is to blame Democrats"?

You're better than that, quote the full sentence.

quote:

The kneejerk is to blame Democrats for being hyper-partisan, but the deficit spending issue has become so great that doing so is just a distraction.


The GOP has had plenty of opportunities to reign in deficit spending and balance the budget, they haven't.



And now it's so bad that they can't balance the budget without sending us into recession. It's like having two people on a boat drilling holes in it, one on the starboard side and the other on port. When the boat starts sinking they spend their time blaming the entirety of the problem on the other person's hole.
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 6/12/26 at 6:36 am to
And Trump opposed it
Posted by Pragmatist2025
Member since Jun 2025
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Posted on 6/12/26 at 6:40 am to
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Wait! WTF?
I didn’t take his comment to discount those things. I inferred that to be in relation to deficit spending.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 6/12/26 at 7:12 am to
quote:

quote the full sentence.
The full sentence attributes a significant proportion of blame to the GOP.

I guess, my focus is on cause rather than the ineffective response to it. That's why I didn't see the quote as out of context. But if you did, I apologize. Certainly was not the intent.

I see the vast preponderance of wasteful spending as attributable to Democrat efforts. The cause is Democrat socialism fortified by a press saturated with leftist sycophant propagandists. Full stop.

Now I get the disappointment with GOP ineptitude countering Dem objectives. I get the blame targeting profound political weakness within the party.

But primary attribution of deficits/deficit spending to GOP objectives is like blaming an extortion victim for submission to perform unpalatable extorted acts.
Posted by texas tortilla
houston
Member since Dec 2015
4728 posts
Posted on 6/12/26 at 7:30 am to
didn't packwood get run out of the senate for kissing women too much? big wet kisses on the lips?
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 6/12/26 at 7:52 am to
quote:

I guess, my focus is on cause rather than the ineffective response to it.


My point on this is that at this point the ineffective response has become enabling every bit as much as someone giving a heroin addict free needles. It's the rare Democrat who goes to DC then ends up becoming a bit more Right-leaning (it took Fetterman a stroke to do so). On the other hand, one of the biggest complaints for GOP voters is how Republicans we elect wind up moving to the Left (read: becoming swamp critters) and going along with the insane levels of deficit spending is chief among those movements.

Until our party's elected officials begin actually holding the line, any stances about the spending being the other party's fault does nothing because our own party members are doing it as well (both through adding their own spending as well as not cutting spending).
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 6/12/26 at 10:11 am to
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didn't packwood get run out of the senate for kissing women too much? big wet kisses on the lips?
Come on now.

With a name like "Packwood" it wasn't like they weren't warned.

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