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I’m so tired of hearing about mail in ballots

Posted on 7/31/20 at 7:48 pm
Posted by Byrdybyrd05
Member since Nov 2014
25711 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 7:48 pm
My mom watches Univision news all the time and she said earlier this month, everybody went out and voted in the Dominican Republic’s Presidential election. No issue over there and we should be doing the same thing come our election.
Posted by PhDoogan
Member since Sep 2018
14947 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 7:57 pm to
Not sure we want to use Univision News or the DR pres election as a standard, but if you actually stop to think about how much frickery would go down with just mass mail in ballots (no serious verification), it would be chaos.

You have the right to a secret vote, right? Well how do you verify if your vote got received, much less counted?

You could inject so much doubt into the election by flooding the mail with ballots allegedly from voters, or filled out on unofficial forms from the "confused old electorate" who didn't know how the new Covid-19 2020 voting system worked.

The corrupt dims and their lawfare figs have already thought up a million different ways to play this.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64655 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 7:58 pm to
That is a funny way to mail in your vote.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54207 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 8:02 pm to
I keep hearing "mail-in ballots would be mailed to everyone". WTF? If it does happen shouldn't the ballots just be mailed to legal registered voters at that time? I haven't heard that distinction made at all.
Posted by TupeloTiger
Tupelo,Ms.[via Bastrop,La.]
Member since Jul 2004
4340 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 8:10 pm to
Only a Democrat will win with mail in ballots. They, Dem's,will cheat. I know. They know how to cheat. I know how it's done. It will happen for Biden this election. It needs to be stopped and only the regular method of voting should be used.
Posted by Rossberg02
Member since Jun 2016
2591 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 8:26 pm to
Trump should kind of cave. Allow voting from home, much like how we filled out the census.

-social security number required
-once vote is placed, ss# is kicked out for more votes
-no need for in person voting
Posted by TupeloTiger
Tupelo,Ms.[via Bastrop,La.]
Member since Jul 2004
4340 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 8:37 pm to
The well known Special Interest Groups AND Lobbyist groups are planning now with their members to cheat on the mail-in votes. They are going to fill out phony cheating Dem. ballots in the thousands. Every member of Unions, Teachers, gov't employees will put in a minimum of 10 false votes, at least 10 family members, all Senior Citizens Centers, Nursing Homes members are all going to be voted by Teachers Unions. It will happen.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
17694 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 8:38 pm to
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My mom watches Univision news all the time




Posted by Zarkinletch416
Deep in the Heart of Texas
Member since Jan 2020
8374 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 7:51 am to
Vote-by-mail = Dominican Republic = Banana Republic
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67866 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 7:57 am to
what if a company or foreign government flooded the mail with fake ballots that look almost exactly like real ones?
Posted by Big_Slim
Mogadishu
Member since Apr 2016
3977 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 8:11 am to
Well I’m sick and tired of hearing about what a great team the Soviets have. Screw em!
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
17474 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 8:12 am to

This post was edited on 8/2/20 at 10:15 am
Posted by untitled
Encino
Member since Jul 2020
26 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 8:19 am to
quote:

what if a company or foreign government flooded the mail with fake ballots that look almost exactly like real ones?
it wouldnt matter in the slightest.

For one, there isnt one national ballot, every jurisdiction prints up their own, so to fake that on a national scale a foreign country would have to perfectly copy thousands and thousands of different forms and then deliver them to that district.

They would somehow have to get the voter rolls and mail them to voters, and somehow double the amount of ballots being mailed, in every district in America, without anyone from the USPS ever noticing, or every city in America wondering why they were mailed two ballets.

And even if they did, it still wouldnt matter. Theyre are several layers of security built it, mainly bar codes so both sides can track the ballet, a district is gonna instantly know if they have a flood of ballets they never printed.

But even if all that fails, so what, the foreign interference premise is built on everyone receiving a fake ballet all voting for the same person.
Posted by Mister Flawless
Tuscaloosa
Member since Jul 2011
381 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 8:26 am to
quote:

Trump should kind of cave. Allow voting from home, much like how we filled out the census.

-social security number required
-once vote is placed, ss# is kicked out for more votes
-no need for in person voting


An election for President should not be conducted like an American Idol vote. Plus, you really don't think there's a way to hack that system too.
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5007 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 8:32 am to
quote:

it wouldnt matter in the slightest.

For one, there isnt one national ballot, every jurisdiction prints up their own, so to fake that on a national scale a foreign country would have to perfectly copy thousands and thousands of different forms and then deliver them to that district.

They would somehow have to get the voter rolls and mail them to voters, and somehow double the amount of ballots being mailed, in every district in America, without anyone from the USPS ever noticing, or every city in America wondering why they were mailed two ballets.

And even if they did, it still wouldnt matter. Theyre are several layers of security built it, mainly bar codes so both sides can track the ballet, a district is gonna instantly know if they have a flood of ballets they never printed.

But even if all that fails, so what, the foreign interference premise is built on everyone receiving a fake ballet all voting for the same person.




There will be massive fraud if mail in ballots are used.

You are like some of the idiots on the left who told me that I would be able to keep my plan and keep my doctor only to find out that was a lie the whole time.

There is no more trust. I don't trust you or anyone else on the left.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30112 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 8:38 am to
Let's start at square one. What are the security measures designed to ensure that a ballot goes directly to the person to whom it was mailed and doesn't land in anyone else's hands?

And/or that person intended was the person who actually filled out the document/card??
Posted by untitled
Encino
Member since Jul 2020
26 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 8:42 am to
quote:

There will be massive fraud if mail in ballots are used.

mail in ballots are already used, for decades now, 5 states exclusively do all their elections this way, trump votes this way, billions of votes have been cast this way, and yet there have only been 491 cases of fraud, not one of which was on a large scale.

I gotta tell you, what youre doing here is not subtle, this preemptive pouting because you know trump is gonna lose is not impressive. Youre saying that if you dont get your way, then something that has never happened before will absolutely unquestionably happen right now. Grow up.
This post was edited on 8/1/20 at 8:51 am
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54207 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 8:46 am to
Hell, if it's going to be a crooked election with mail-in votes then let's just scrap that and text our votes in over our phones and get it over with in a hurry instead of taking weeks to find mislocated ballots somewhere in a closet or trunk of a car, if needed.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30112 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 8:52 am to
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billions of votes have been cast this way, and there are 491 cases of fraud.

Bro, I'm just going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you didn't mean to say billions.

Pew research found that 16% of all votes were accomplished by mail in 2008, 18% of all votes were such in 2012, and 20% in 2016. That doesn't add up quite to what you're thinking, and that's even forgetting all about the whole billions thing.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 8:56 am to
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Trump should kind of cave. Allow voting from home, much like how we filled out the census.

-social security number required
-once vote is placed, ss# is kicked out for more votes
-no need for in person voting



That's why we have abesentee ballots....

And there's only 8 states I believe that are non excuse absentee and of those 8 only 2 are maybe swing states: Texas and NH.

The rest of the country can all apply for absentee and mail those in.
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